What do you think is most important.
#1 OAV,OAV#
#2 WHIP,WHIP #

I always try to stay in the middle on both.But I have been hearing some of late saying that OAV is much more important.So lets hear what people think I vote Whip.
2/4/2010 6:30 PM
oav
2/4/2010 6:49 PM
WHIP.
2/4/2010 7:54 PM
Am I wrong for ordering them 1. ERC# 2. WHIP# 3. OAV#
2/4/2010 8:18 PM
I sort by WHIP and then lean toward the guys with lower OAV.
2/4/2010 8:21 PM
OK 3 whips,1-OAV and 1-ERC#
2/4/2010 9:25 PM
whip. 2 walks beats a hit and an out. also the Sim engine is unkind to low oav higher whip pitchers and more forgiving to low whip higher oav pitchers. I dont use whip# I prefer whip and whip+
2/5/2010 12:03 AM
WHIP# seems borderline useless. Because of some weird things going on related to double plays, many pitchers will have OAV# higher than their OAV and BB/9# higher than their RL BB/9; nevertheless, they will show a WHIP# lower than their RL WHIP. In reality they are going to pitch like a pitcher with a higher WHIP than their RL. WHIP# can be useful for sorting players, but when actually deciding who to draft OAV, OAV#, WHIP, WHIP#, HR/9, and HR/9+ are the most important stats to consider. Things like WHIP and ERC don't factor into the actual decision tree at all.
2/5/2010 12:09 AM
4-Whips
2-OAV
2/5/2010 4:26 AM
In a non-progressive (which I don't play much anymore) I always search by bb/9 and hr/9 first (or their + stats). Then I use OAV#.

In progressives, I now only sort by WHIP+ and hr/9 +.
2/5/2010 5:41 AM
HUM

4-WHIP
2-OAV
1-ECR#
1-BB/9
2/5/2010 7:22 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Trentonjoe on 2/05/2010In a non-progressive (which I don't play much anymore) I always search by bb/9 and hr/9 first (or their + stats). Then I use OAV#.
In progressives, I now only sort by WHIP+ and hr/9 +.
But to go along his lines I would say I go.
Open league only

#1 and 1A Whip and OAV
#2 HR+
#3 BB/9#
#4 $$$
2/5/2010 7:49 AM
I judge and pick using the following criteria and search by WHIP.

OAV#, OAV+, BB/9, HR/9+, ERC#, and ERC+
2/5/2010 10:04 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By bbondsmvp on 2/04/2010I sort by WHIP and then lean toward the guys with lower OAV
Yep. I'll look at WHIP first, then oav+ & hr/9+. I
2/5/2010 10:06 AM
i dont even weigh oav#. i use erc# first, then whip# and always have hr+ above 100. low oav# pitchers tend to have higher k/9 and seem to use up their in game fatigue faster. like comparing maddux to randy johnson. it will take maddux 90-100 pitches to throw a cg, and resting your pen. while johnson's 100 pitches would only reach the 7th inning (usually).
2/5/2010 11:32 AM
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