Prior to the update it seemed to me these two got no respect form the sim. Since the update however, pre-1969 Gibson , and 1960's Koufax have done much better. Has anybody used/noticed this?

No Napolean, but I am hoping that is true! I have Koufax and Gibby on separate teams coming up, so fingers crossed!

Add Bob Feller to the list of Rodney Dangerfields

I've got them both in a $120 mill theme league

Sandy Koufax '65 (L) 15 6-3 0 96.0 3.75 .231 1.18 8.72 2.81 14.04M

Bob Gibson '68 (R) 14 6-3 0 90.1 3.29 .210 1.15 7.37 3.49 12.22M

I'm happy with those results, team is in first, playing around .667 ball.

add carlton, seaver and palmer too. along with robin roberts, early wynn and bob lemon

no love for Fergie

All those pitchers are money in the bank in progressive leagues. Wan't more realistic results play in more 1 season progressives.

Gibby has always done well for me. Maybe the update helps a little but the question is more whether he's worth the price. I usually don't see him pitching significantly better than the other guys on my staff. So it's not like he's BAD... just that he's not as good as you expect.

Sandy is still Sandy... put him in SBC or Comerica and watch him tear it up. Otherwise he's hit-and-miss.