Can You Guess The Price Of These Cookies? Topic

In my never ending and obsessive quest to define, chart and predict trivia, here is my latest version of the Price Is Right. Can you guess the price of this box of cookies post-update? I've listed a dozen favorites at current prices (rounded). If you can correctly guess what their new post-update prices will be on 10/14, you'll win... I dunno, maybe a new batch of cookies.

Winner is smallest aggregate deviation from the 12, in thousands.



Come on down.



Bob Caruthers `86 $17.199 MM

Jason Kendall `04 $4.954 MM

Ted Simmons `71 $4.427 MM

Tony Phillips `93 $5.634 MM

Jesse Tannehill `02 $9.799 MM

Walter Johnson `25 $7.208 MM

Pink Hawley `95 $16.096 MM

Cy Williams `23 $6.093 MM

Walt Weiss `95 $3.653 MM

Gregg Jefferies `93 $5.966 MM

Willie Wilson `79 $4.888 MM

Willie McGee `85 $7.332 MM

10/5/2009 8:26 PM
i prefer cake or even pie.....over cookies
10/5/2009 8:32 PM
That's not a particularly interesting batch because of the specific hitters you chose. No deadball hitters, so nobody whose fielding should radically change.
10/5/2009 9:18 PM
Quote: Originally posted by dahsdebater on 10/05/2009That's not a particularly interesting batch because of the specific hitters you chose.  No deadball hitters, so nobody whose fielding should radically change.

True, but McGee could end up a D- fielder. That would be interesting! I'm curious to see just how much better the deadball guys get at fielding. Imagine a '96 Hughie Jennings with B/A+ fielding! If that happened I could see him jumping 3mil in price.
10/6/2009 9:03 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By thunder1008 on 10/05/2009
Bob Caruthers `86 $20.123MM

Jason Kendall `04 $5.245 MM

Ted Simmons `71 $4.932 MM

Tony Phillips `93 $6.321 MM

Jesse Tannehill `02 $10.112 MM

Walter Johnson `25 $8.343 MM

Pink Hawley `95 $16.096 MM NEVER USED HIM

Cy Williams `23 $7.221 MM

Walt Weiss `95 $4.012 MM

Gregg Jefferies `93 $6.222 MM

Willie Wilson `79 $5.555 MM

Willie McGee `85 $8.190 MM



10/6/2009 10:02 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By thunder1008 on 10/05/2009
In my never ending and obsessive quest to define, chart and predict trivia, here is my latest version of the Price Is Right. Can you guess the price of this box of cookies post-update? I've listed a dozen favorites at current prices (rounded). If you can correctly guess what their new post-update prices will be on 10/14, you'll win... I dunno, maybe a new batch of cookies.

Winner is smallest aggregate deviation from the 12, in thousands.



Come on down.



Bob Caruthers `86 $19.702 MM

Jason Kendall `04 $4.962 MM

Ted Simmons `71 $4.427 MM

Tony Phillips `93 $5.921 MM

Jesse Tannehill `02 $11.211 MM

Walter Johnson `25 $9.312 MM

Pink Hawley `95 $17.243 MM

Cy Williams `23 $6.412 MM

Walt Weiss `95 $3.568 MM

Gregg Jefferies `93 $5.886 MM

Willie Wilson `79 $4.891 MM

Willie McGee `85 $6.872 MM



10/6/2009 10:14 AM
Mallomars still the best cookies!
10/6/2009 2:26 PM
dahsdebater -- Your point is well taken. Based on what we've heard, it looks like one of the biggest changes will be the relative value of some of the greatest deadball hitters if their egregious fielding ratings come up.

If I were to go out on a not very big limb, I would predict that some of the new cookies might include Tip O'Neil `91, a steal at $5.5 MM with a .321/BA, .402 OBP, 10 dead ball HR's and speed of 70 if his D/D+ fielding comes up to at least the B-/C+ range and his price stays about the same. Ditto for Gavvy Cravath `13, already a popular choice for $6.5 MM with a .341 BA, .407 OBP and 19 dead ball HR's, even saddled with D+/D fielding.

And jfranco77 made a good point in another thread about how you could make a huge case for Honus Wagner's `08 fielding ratings to jump when you compare his fielding percentage to the rest of the league that year. I think nearly everyone agrees that Wagner was one of the great defensive SS's of his or any era. I have checked out his glove in Cooperstown many times.

But that's not really the point of this thread. That goes to the subject of which players will be most impacted by the 10/14 update, and it hints at the next batch of cookies.

But all this thread addresses is current cookies and how prices will be affected by the update's changes for good-hitting pitchers like Caruthers, Tannehill, Johnson and Hawley, impact (if any) on some of the more popular catchers with good arms and impact (if any) on some of the other more popular cookies today like Phillips, Weiss, Williams, Jefferies & McGee.

Not driving at anything in particular. To paraphrase Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men, "Point? I have no point. I never have a point. That's part of my charm."
10/6/2009 3:03 PM
606pa, 365/444/587, 28 HR, OPS+ of 177, and a 26% CS rate which probably translates to around a B+ arm... what I want to know is, will Joe Mauer 2009 be the most expensive catcher in the database?
10/7/2009 9:25 AM
That might depend; do you count King Kelly? And I kinda doubt he beats out Bench, thinking he'll be more in the low $8 millions.
10/7/2009 9:38 AM
$12.96
10/7/2009 11:54 AM
one dollar, bob
10/7/2009 12:52 PM
Sounds crazy, but I think the one big 2009 cookie depending on the normalization of his stats may actually be Carlos Pena. 8HR/100 and a .356 OBA and he will probably be under $4mil. There is even an outside shot at around $3mil.
10/7/2009 4:42 PM
Quote: Originally posted by seels on 10/07/2009Sounds crazy, but I think the one big 2009 cookie depending on the normalization of his stats may actually be Carlos Pena.  8HR/100 and a .356 OBA and he will probably be under $4mil.  There is even an outside shot at around $3mil.

he'll be over 3.7 mill
10/7/2009 10:02 PM
Anyone want to guess Greinkes price?
10/7/2009 11:26 PM
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