Value of an A+ arm??? Topic

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I've got an A/A+/A+ Joe Mauer. So far he has thrown out a whopping 14 of 64 base stealers....21.9%. We are approaching the All-Star break. Shouldn't he be doing a bit better than that? He's hitting just fine...but yikes.....
6/26/2010 3:04 PM
zubinsum
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In all likeliness, yes he should be better. However his specific performance depends both on the competition and your pitchers. Also, keep in mind that there is a huge range for A+ arms-- I think from 45% to 60%. Still in my experience, even A- arms wind up with ~25% caught.
6/26/2010 4:31 PM
believeit
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There is a big difference in the results of A+ arms 1971 Thurman Munson (61% CS) and 2002 Javy Lopez (38%).  They really should not have the same rating.

And then there are those damn Mike Piazzas with their D arms who keep throwing out my Willie McGees (78% SB success rate).    Go figure!

6/26/2010 10:20 PM
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NOBODY steals on my `64 Roseboro.  Just finishing one $80 MM OL, and he has thrown out 23 of 37 (62%).  Hardly anyone tries and those that do get gunned down.  My team has 224 SB's v. only 45 against (only 14 against Roseboro).  Nice differential covers a multitude of other sins.. 
6/26/2010 10:48 PM
believeit
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'64 Roseboro is so good that most runners are afraid to try to run on him.     I recently completed $100M theme league, and he threw out 14 of 16 runners.  That's only 16 SBA against Roseboro for the entire season!  He caught about 75% of the innnings played.  The funny thing is that both successful steals happened in the same game, and one was by a poor base runner.  (The other was Henderson.)

 

6/27/2010 12:03 AM
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'64 Roseboro? I don't know what type of runners you had in these leagues but he's "gunned down" only 29 of the 108 attempt for me... nothing special there
6/27/2010 7:00 AM
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What do you think of '75 Carter?  He is currently at 47% after about 130 games.
6/27/2010 11:29 AM
seels
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My fave of all time to use is '87 Mike Lavalliere.  Usually throws out a little less than half the runners trying to steal, is a pretty decent hitter, and if played right I can get better than 100 games out of him all for around $3.3M
6/28/2010 12:03 AM
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Posted by robmb on 6/27/2010 11:29:00 AM (view original):
What do you think of '75 Carter?  He is currently at 47% after about 130 games.
Amy was in love with 1975 carter 2 & 3 years ago.She always said he was the best deal at catcher.Now it seams like everyone is using him.He is not bad I use him or 1974 Gene Tenace on all my teams.Great arms & good bats.
6/28/2010 10:34 AM
mpalco
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Overrated
6/28/2010 1:55 PM
jammiesworld
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Posted by mpalco on 6/28/2010 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Overrated
Who both of them???
6/28/2010 7:13 PM
thurst63
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He put up some nice numbers
Split Type G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
Totals 157 516 80 103 15 1 26 127 118 124 0 0 .200 .356 .384 0.740
I just had Gene finish up in one of my league SB48/CS33 
6/28/2010 7:18 PM
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Although I rarely go with really crappy armed catchers (unless their offense is amazing or I'm stuck by the theme/league), I have found that since the last update, the arms seem to cost more than they are worth.  These days I'm happy to go with a B(ish) armed catcher who doesn't financially cripple my team and can hit the ball from time to time...  and have a defensive replacement with an A+ arm who can gun down guys when it really counts.  It's the catcher equivalent of having a really good closer.
6/28/2010 8:05 PM (edited)
zubinsum
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Posted by robmb on 6/27/2010 11:29:00 AM (view original):
What do you think of '75 Carter?  He is currently at 47% after about 130 games.
Carter will gun down close to half the runners that face him.  He will hit .250-.280/.320-.360/.400-.450.  At $4M he is a steal and the best value catcher at mid-caps.
6/28/2010 11:33 PM
thurst63
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Posted by zubinsum on 6/28/2010 11:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robmb on 6/27/2010 11:29:00 AM (view original):
What do you think of '75 Carter?  He is currently at 47% after about 130 games.
Carter will gun down close to half the runners that face him.  He will hit .250-.280/.320-.360/.400-.450.  At $4M he is a steal and the best value catcher at mid-caps.
Oh yes
6/28/2010 11:43 PM
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