Savage XVI Rosters/Commentary Topic

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https://discord.gg/HGHQUAeD


Rosters

1. edsortails - LeBron James, Andre Drummond, Jerry Lucas, Bill Walton, Anfernee Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, Derek Harper, Kevon Looney, Paul Pressey, Steven Adams, OG Anunoby, Isaiah Hartenstein

2. raggedclaws - Giannis Antetokounmpo, Larry Nance, Christian Wood, Jason Kidd, Amare Stoudemire, Willis Reed, Zach LaVine, Dave Cowens, De'Anthony Melton, Thomas Bryant, Gary Payton II, Nikola Mirotic

3. ashamael - Michael Jordan, Shawn Kemp, Daniel Gafford, Chauncey Billups, Robert Williams, Jakob Poeltl, Kemba Walker, A.C. Green, Onyeka Okongwu, Mel Daniels, Jack Sikma, Mark West

4. m6speed - Steph Curry, Bill Russell, Buck Williams, Nikola Vucevic, Ben Simmons, Zion Williamson, Mo Cheeks, Dan Roundfield, George Gervin, Yao Ming, Thaddeus Young, Cedric Ceballos

5. pbandj - Wilt Chamberlain, Tyson Chandler, Klay Thompson, Tyrese Haliburton, Marques Johnson, Delon Wright, Pascal Siakam, Alvin Robertson, Drew Eubanks, Jalen Brunson, Herbert Jones, Cadillac Anderson

6. jhsukow - Anthony Davis, Magic Johnson, Horace Grant, Mitchell Robinson, Russell Westbrook, Derrick White, Paul Millsap, Jaren Jackson, Troy Murphy, Antonio McDyess, Jermaine O'Neal, Carmelo Anthony

7. beloud - Rudy Gobert, Scottie Pippen, Jonas Valanciunas, Jayson Tatum, Joakim Noah, Mike Conley, Chet Holmgren, Scottie Barnes, Jonathan Isaac, LaMarcus Aldridge, Isaiah Jackson, James Johnson

8. tarheel1991 - Nikola Jokic, Oscar Robertson, Serge Ibaka, Pau Gasol, Evan Mobley, Victor Wembanyama, Blake Griffin, Robert Covington, Aaron Gordon, Clarence Weatherspoon, DeMar DeRozan, Trey Murphy

9. riftonapple - Chris Paul, Artis Gilmore, Kobe Bryant, Derrick Favors, Chris Andersen, Bo Outlaw, Carlos Boozer, De'Aaron Fox, Mark Price, James Worthy, Mo Bamba, Kelly Olynyk

10. chewy3344 - David Robinson, Jimmy Butler, Jarrett Allen, Gerald Wallace, Otto Porter, Fat Lever, Deandre Ayton, Josh Smith, Chris Webber, David West, Tyus Jones, Naz Reid

11. 20ks - Shaquille O'Neal, Karl-Anthony Towns, Elton Brand, Walt Frazier, Draymond Green, Ray Allen, Victor Oladipo, Anthony Edwards, Ed Davis, Rajon Rondo, Jusuf Nurkic, Michael Cooper

12. berkelon - Dwight Howard, Jrue Holiday, Manu Ginobili, Ivica Zubac, Dale Davis, Hot Rod Williams, Vince Carter, Tobias Harris, Arvydas Sabonis, Larry Sanders, Ryan Anderson, Charlie Ward

13. 24kpyrite - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kyrie Irving, Alonzo Mourning, John Collins, Michael Porter, Walker Kessler, Steve Nash, Chris Mullin, Charles Oakley, Kyle Korver, Joe Ingles, JaMychal Green

14. midge - James Harden, Dennis Rodman, Marcus Camby, Jerry West, Dirk Nowitzki, Enes Kanter, Mikal Bridges, Mason Plumlee, Rodney McCray, Jamal Murray, Bailey Howell, Bob Pettit

15. jcred5 - Kevin Durant, Ben Wallace, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Robert Parish, JaVale McGee, Mookie Blaylock, Terry Tyler, Nerlens Noel, Walt Bellamy, Alex English, D'Angelo Russell, Elden Campbell

16. steelers821 - Kawhi Leonard, Moses Malone, Patrick Ewing, Brandon Clarke, Al Horford, Dejounte Murray, Myles Turner, Terrell Brandon, Desmond Bane, Dwight Powell, Jalen Williams, T.J. McConnell

17. gerryred - Karl Malone, Shawn Marion, Gary Payton, Danny Green, Brent Barry, Emeka Okafor, Bob Lanier, Marcin Gortat, Amir Johnson, Terry Porter, Roy Tarpley, Oliver Miller

18. benhoidal - Kevin Garnett, Dwyane Wade, Andrei Kirilenko, Kristaps Porzingis, Kenneth Faried, Tree Rollins, Paul Pierce, Lauri Markkanen, Paul Reed, Anthony Mason, Derrick Rose, Jalen Duren

19. dh555 - Tim Duncan, Damian Lillard, Sidney Moncrief, Nic Claxton, Richaun Holmes, Andrew Bogut, John Henson, Deron Williams, Andris Biedrins, David Lee, Theo Ratliff, John Havlicek

20. robusk - Julius Erving, Clint Capela, Bam Adebayo, Clyde Drexler, Kevin Love, Brandan Wright, Eddie Jones, Larry Nance Jr., Kyle O'Quinn, Kevin Johnson, Rasheed Wallace, Nene Hilario

21. dontburnearl - Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, Dikembe Mutombo, Donovan Mitchell, Bobby Portis, Andre Iguodala, Kyle Anderson, Devin Booker, Anderson Varejao, Trayce Jackson-Davis, J.J. Hickson, Lonzo Ball

22. amerk1180 - Hakeem Olajuwon, Larry Bird, John Stockton, Montrezl Harrell, Chris Boucher, CJ McCollum, Kermit Washington, Wes Unseld, Khris Middleton, Ja Morant, Mark Eaton, Grant Hill

23. uptowngbv - DeAndre Jordan, Luka Doncic, Bobby Jones, Domantas Sabonis, Eric Bledsoe, Bradley Beal, Samuel Dalembert, Cedric Maxwell, Jaylen Brown, Tom Boerwinkle, Daniel Theis, Obi Toppin

24. dbkc - Joel Embiid, Hassan Whiteside, Paul George, Kyle Lowry, Donyell Marshall, Andrew Bynum, Bob McAdoo, Nicolas Batum, Jarred Vanderbilt, Ron Harper, Bill Bridges, Jamario Moon
9/16/2024 4:24 PM (edited)
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9/5/2024 7:42 PM
Is this even happening tonight?
I don't like apps and I don't like joining things, but it seems like too much information is exchanged on this discord thing to not be a part of. That said, the link above says it is expired.
9/9/2024 3:53 PM
Posted by edsortails on 9/9/2024 3:53:00 PM (view original):
Is this even happening tonight?
I don't like apps and I don't like joining things, but it seems like too much information is exchanged on this discord thing to not be a part of. That said, the link above says it is expired.
Yes, it's on. I have posted in the discord savage forum that you are unable to get in. They'll post a good link soon. You don't HAVE to be on Discord to follow along but sometimes there is a lot of constructive discussions.
9/9/2024 4:09 PM
9/9/2024 4:38 PM
Nobody is responsible for my technical deficiency but I don't see how I can do anything there. I can't view old messages and I can't post anything of my own.

Am i waiting for someone to ok me?
9/9/2024 5:10 PM
You need to accept the rules and then it will give you all permissions
9/9/2024 5:23 PM
I see no way to accept the rules. My discord era was brief.

Will any information on the lottery be posted here?
9/9/2024 6:50 PM
Posted by edsortails on 9/9/2024 6:50:00 PM (view original):
I see no way to accept the rules. My discord era was brief.

Will any information on the lottery be posted here?
I assume all the lottery and draft picks will be posted here. Discord is just better for commentary and better than site mail for alerting who’s up.
9/9/2024 6:58 PM
Posted by edsortails on 9/9/2024 6:50:00 PM (view original):
I see no way to accept the rules. My discord era was brief.

Will any information on the lottery be posted here?
yea ill still be posting everything important in the forums

but all the good draft chat will be in discord so try to get in if you can
9/9/2024 8:57 PM
PG - J.Butler / F.Lever / Ty Jones
SG - G.Wallace / Josh Smith / O.Porter
SF - Josh Smith / C.Webber / D.West
PF - J.Allen / D.Ayton / N.Reid
C - D.Robinson / C.Webber

Rd

Name

Total MPG

% Min Used of Total Seasons Chosen

% of Min Needed

Cumulative Min Needed %

1

David Robinson

182

100%

15%

15%

2

Jimmy Butler

128

100%

11%

26%

3

Jarrett Allen

124

94%

10%

36%

4

Gerald Wallace

118

74%

10%

46%

5

Otto Porter

64

59%

5%

51%

6

Fat Lever

104

59%

9%

60%

7

Deandre Ayton

101

81%

8%

68%

8

Josh Smith

172

100%

14%

83%

9

Chris Webber

133

83%

11%

94%

10

David West

38

38%

3%

97%

11

Tyus Jones

21

21%

2%

99%

12

Naz Reid

15

19%

1%

100%

1200.0


9/16/2024 3:55 PM
Since Paul George will play PG on some teams and SG on others (same with Embiid and Whiteside at PF/C), this is a better way to break it down:

High Usage Guards:
Paul George
Kyle Lowry
Ron Harper

Low Usage Guards/Wings:
Nic Batum
Jared Vanderbilt
Jamario Moon

Medium Usage SFs:
Donyell Marshall
Bill Bridges

Medium Usage Bigs:
Hassan Whiteside
Andrew Bynum

High Usage Bigs:
Joel Embiid
Bob McAdoo

I’m pretty happy. I shifted away from chasing value and focused on building teams all the way from the first round; filling holes as I went.
9/16/2024 4:24 PM
I really haven’t build my teams yet but this is sort of what I expect
PG
D. Murray 3ssns Brandon 3ssns (probably 1 or 2 will close to full minutes. McConnell (maybe filling in as a backup in most seasons. Possibly a starter somewhere.
maybe Bane or Leonard if it works out.
SG
Leonard will likely be starting all 5 with Bane and Jalen Williams as backups. Don’t love Bane but he at least is an efficient scorer with a lot of 3s.
SF
Clarke and horford will be be my main guys with Powell probably backing them up. Having done much of a deep dive into Powell though so maybe he’ll find his way into startin.
PF/C
I think the plan is Moses/Ewing/Turner playing every minute but that could change if horford or Powell end up working out here at all.
9/16/2024 4:48 PM
PG: Oscar/Derozan
SG: Covington/Gordon/Murphy
SF: Ibaka/Weatherspoon/Gordon
PF: Gasol/Mobley/Wemby
C: Jokic/Griffin/Gasol

Mobley will also play SF in one season; Ibaka will play PF in one season; and Griffin will play a smidge of SF in one season.

The plan went pretty well overall. After getting Jokic/Robertson to start I knew I wanted to spend the next few picks on frontcourt players, especially ones who could give me a nice defensive foundation to cover for Jokic. I was really hoping for Mourning or Ewing in the 3rd, but getting Ibaka/Gasol/Mobley in the next three rounds was a great plan B. I took Wemby too early, but the season where he and Jokic start together will be fun. I should have taken Boozer (better Jokic backup than Griffin) or Millsap (better SF backup than Weatherspoon) there. But in the end, the last few rounds were pretty stress-free; I left myself really only needing to fill some low-mid usage SG minutes (probably the easiest thing to be looking for late) and about 4 mpg of an Oscar backup for each team (Derozan fit the bill well given that I didn't need too much in the way of assists).
9/16/2024 6:16 PM
1 - Lillard/Deron
2 - Moncrief/Havlicek/Deron
3 - Holmes/Henson/Ratliff/Lee
4 - Duncan/Lee/Bogut
5 - Claxton/Bogut/Biedrins/Lee

I thought the frontcourt came together nicely after being worried I'd have enough quality mins after starting with Claxton/Holmes in the 4th/5th. I pretty much punted 3s after the Dame pick. Kinda wish I had went after a good combo guard like Kemba or LaVine when I had the chance. I feel pretty good about this team overall. Good defense and plenty of high efg others around my middling efg stars. I think rebounds will be fine but wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be a negative. This will be the first time I've tried the punt 1 team strategy. Congrats to whoever gets that team in their division. I feel like I have 2 teams capable of making a deep run but who knows.
9/16/2024 7:42 PM
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