Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
I dislike many on the hateful right too. So he wins. In terms of him being a terrible human being. You're chummy with bad_luck so forgive me if I don't fully respect your judgement on who is and is not a good human being. With all due respect.

I have no idea who or what Bad Luck is.

I know what Trump is.

so do you. You choose to overlook it because "he owns the libs"

You too, are a horrible human being.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:58:00 PM (view original):
No we would have bakeries that didn't care and those that did? I see nothing wrong with that. If I go to a restaurant that doesn't serve kosher, I can leave and go to one that does. LOL.

Not serving kosher is not the same as refusing to serve. I am a vegetarian. It's not discrimination to not have vegetarian options.

Exactly. So if a baker says, sorry I am not comfortable then go to another one. Seems simple to me.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Private prisons would be 10000000x better than Gov't ran ones.

They currently exist, and they are not.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

I will assume that you have not listened to much Shapiro, which is fine. But he actually argues with a broad scope. He doesn't cherry-pick much at all. He truly is a great debater. Him and Bill Maher going at it was classic, because you can tell that they've both been trained in the art of debate and are highly skilled.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

I'd say way more on the right are afraid of AOC. She scares the **** out of the right.

I'm in a **** ton of Dem discussion groups. Ben Shapiro's name NEVER comes up. Ever

AOC scares me because she is stupid, but has been elected to a position of power within the country. She was an economics major and doesn't understand economics. Very dangerous road.

No more dumb or dangerous than Trump.

I feel like you try to convince me to not like Trump. I DONT LIKE TRUMP ALREADY.

So Trump scares you?

In figurative sense, yes. I don't lay awake at night worrying about Trump, but I am grateful that we have a system put in place that contains him.

You should tell McConnell about this system

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
I dislike many on the hateful right too. So he wins. In terms of him being a terrible human being. You're chummy with bad_luck so forgive me if I don't fully respect your judgement on who is and is not a good human being. With all due respect.

I have no idea who or what Bad Luck is.

I know what Trump is.

so do you. You choose to overlook it because "he owns the libs"

You too, are a horrible human being.

Oh you're right about that. I AM a horrible human being. I have to be to survive in a world filled with users, liars and A holes. You have the same idea of who bad_luck is as you do who I am. So if you can surmise I am a horrible human being then you can form an opinion about him as well.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

I will assume that you have not listened to much Shapiro, which is fine. But he actually argues with a broad scope. He doesn't cherry-pick much at all. He truly is a great debater. Him and Bill Maher going at it was classic, because you can tell that they've both been trained in the art of debate and are highly skilled.

I watched it and thought Ben won as did most of the pundits. And it was respectful and highly educational. At least to me.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

Progressives are equally bad IMO. Supress free speech, hate Israel, preach white privilege (racist), force me to use pronouns I don't want to use and label those that disagree with them as racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamaphobe.

Vile and evil people they are. Case in Point is bad_luck and dino too.

Please leave personal attacks out this thread. Thanks.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

Give me one example of him doing that? He actually never does that. Transitive property, eh?

"Ben Shapiro SLAMS idiotic statue of liberty protest"

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

I will assume that you have not listened to much Shapiro, which is fine. But he actually argues with a broad scope. He doesn't cherry-pick much at all. He truly is a great debater. Him and Bill Maher going at it was classic, because you can tell that they've both been trained in the art of debate and are highly skilled.

Shapiro admittedly talks out his *** about **** he doesn't know anything about. He's just another loud mouth pundit who has zero real impact on our lives

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:53:00 PM (view original):
The Left is the Progressive Left like the Alt Right and just cause you are not doesn't mean others feel the same way. Check out YouTube. He has mobs out to get him. LOL.

Progressives are not the alt right, lol. And yes, there are extremists. Ben Shapiro loves to cherry pick and argue against only the most extremist positions. It would be like me saying many in the KKK voted for Trump > KKK is racist > Everyone who voted for Trump is racist.

Or simplifying conservative positions on immigration to 'close borders'.

Progressives are equally bad IMO. Supress free speech, hate Israel, preach white privilege (racist), force me to use pronouns I don't want to use and label those that disagree with them as racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamaphobe.

Vile and evil people they are. Case in Point is bad_luck and dino too.

lol, you have no idea what progressives are. You can be progressive and not do any of those things, and you can not be progressive and do all of those things.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 3:36:00 PM (view original):
First off, I am against anti-discrimination laws anyways. The market takes of discrimination on its own. The government actually had to put discrimination laws into place because the market wasn't discriminating for them. People don't care who they sell to. They just want the money. The people that do care go out of business. It's one thing that I love about capitalism.

To this specific case, the baker said he would sell the gay couple a cake. He said that he would not put two dudes on top and he would not write "Jim and Bob" or whatever on it. Asking him to decorate the cake for a gay wedding is discriminating on his religious beliefs. Once again, take a step back and look at this logically.

Yeah but what if enough bakers refuse service to enough gay people? That's pretty bad for the gay people, right? Asking someone to bake a cake for a gay person is not discrimination against their belief.

On your BL argument, if I go into an occupation where I am expected to write books based on people's requests, I will be expected to do that, regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

I guarantee that many authors who help write athlete's books do not agree with everything they write.

I want you to write me a book (op-ed) stating that all muslims are radicals. Will you do this for me?
I want you to write me a book about how great a person Hitler was and how beneficial to society the Holocaust was. Will you do that for me?

If that was my job, I would.
If I was not comfortable with that, I wouldn't go into that job.

Not sure that is how books are made, but whatever.

This tells me you don't have very strong convictions, but you shouldn't penalize those that do.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
I dislike many on the hateful right too. So he wins. In terms of him being a terrible human being. You're chummy with bad_luck so forgive me if I don't fully respect your judgement on who is and is not a good human being. With all due respect.

I have no idea who or what Bad Luck is.

I know what Trump is.

so do you. You choose to overlook it because "he owns the libs"

You too, are a horrible human being.

Oh you're right about that. I AM a horrible human being. I have to be to survive in a world filled with users, liars and A holes. You have the same idea of who bad_luck is as you do who I am. So if you can surmise I am a horrible human being then you can form an opinion about him as well.

That's weird because I go through life as a pretty likable guy who survives just fine around any and all types of people.

I feel bad for you

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/29/2019 4:25:00 PM (view original):
I am certainly anti Left. I think any political faction that is threatened by the likes of Ben Shapiro has major issues.

No one is threatened by Shapiro.

he can't even reach the podium without a stepstool.

****, he still has daddy sticking up for him. Lol.

Ummm....There are quite a few on the far left who hate free speech and are scared to death of Shapiro.

there are quite a few everywhere who are hate free speech (trump seems to be one).

Don't move the goal posts. Why is the Left petrified of Ben Shapiro?

Lol. You are seriously overestimating Shapiro's importance and presence.

Well he is harmless and the left rails against him. Its all over YouTube go and watch. I am curious as to why? You don't even know or understand why.

More use of 'The Left'. Anyway, some rail against him because they disagree with him?

He is really, really good at strawmanning.

He is neither violent nor is antagonistic there is no reason to rail against him and prevent him from speaking. Give me one example of his strawmanning. He is really good at debating you mean?

People who prevent him from speaking are dumb.

Ben Shapiro is really good at debating extremists. It's really easy to debate extremists. Even you could destroy Bracco logically in a debate.

From what I have seen, Ben Shapiro rarely debates the moderate, nuanced positions on an issue.

What Ben Shapiro is good at is convincing the masses that every liberal is an extremist.

You're generalizing. There are 100s of Ben Shapiro clips find one like that? He has strong positions but he debates everyone equally. And he WINS. What you can say is that he is very well read and its tough to debate someone like that who can quote from 1000s of books and other sources. But he is never cruel or nasty. Always logical. And I disagree with him on two major topics.

Look up Ben Shapiro videos, I challenge you to find one where he debates against a moderate opinion.

He impacts many lives actually. As far as I can tell and positively. My bad KO but I wanted to use those names/user IDs as examples not to belittle them. Won't happen again.