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No one is talking about the Jerusalem thing? You know, the thing that literally everyone hates and shows Trump's foreign incompetence? This is right up CCCP's ally.
#MAKINGISRAELGREATAGAIN
NOT in the Job description............. NEITHER is making Russia GREAT AGAIN.
Hence the problem........... and the Russian collusion investigation by the FBI/Special Counsel.
Keep whistling...........
Lol..
Obama tried to make Cuba and Iran great again. Was that in his job description?
No seriously isn't it a problem that this shows that he completely does not understand world politics and he is willing to kill US relations with tons of countries for personal and business interests? How is this not a bad thing? This is just one of those, "WHY THE HELL DID HE SAY THAT" things that are head scratchers.
I love how Moy doesn't even have a calculated response at this point, just a bunch of stupid hashtags that mean nothing.
Also talking about Obama is the perfect way that the right shows that they have lost.
He understands world politics....
There's been 'peace talks' for almost 50 years.... And it's not getting any more peaceful, nor has either side budged. Time to shake it up, let the region know it's not 'just talk' anymore. Maybe now they will budge and actually get something done.
Let me ask you, your turn to be a Soothsayer... What are those other 'tons of countries' as you say going to do about it? I bet you they do nothing (just like 'tons of countries' did when Russia invaded Crimea).
Seriously, what specifically will those 'tons of countries' do in retaliation to the US recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital?
So basically your argument could be summed up as, "Well other presidents have failed, so **** ALL OF IT. YEEHAW."
Other countries will break alliances with Israel, sanctions, support Palestine, etc.
Perhaps even war in the middle east. You know it's bad when literally everyone except for conspiracy theorists and Trump Donors hate it.
It's hard to defend this, 'SOOTHSAYER' Moy, isn't it.
America and Israel first is a great way to destabilize the world, ruin relations, and make everyone hate us!
My argument is "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result". Trump is trying something new. You have NO IDEA how this will play out, but after 5 presidents doing the same thing over and over again we can pretty much assume the outcome of Trump continued with the status quo.
I asked you be sufficient.... Which countries will break alliances with Israel? Who will support Palestine who's not already during them? Who will put sanctions on who?
Btw - war has been going on in the Middle East forever. Just recently the Yemen government was overrun, ISIS conquered Iraq, Syria is in a civil war, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are fighting Iran funded armies. That's just scratching the surface too.
It's pretty hard to expect good things from something new when that something unites the world against you. There IS a middle ground between 'repeating past actions', and 'utter insanity'.
Egypt and Jordan, specifically.
I know the politics of the middle east. But again, your argument seems to be, 'if it is already messed up, WHO CARES?'
Change is rarely well received. No matter what the change is.
I think you will be surprised with Trump's success in the Middle East. This move with Jerusalem was simply to demonstrate he's not a 'politician' they are dealing with. They will take Trump more seriously now.
You still haven't answered me though....
I asked you be specific.... Which countries will break alliances with Israel? Who will support Palestine who's not already supporting them? Who will put sanctions on who?
I'm curious as to which ally country wants to be cut off of us military aid, us financial aid, us weapons cache, us intelligence, and us consumption of their exports.... All over the us recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital.