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Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

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What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:15:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

That's just vulgar language. Trump didn't harass anyone in particular - if you read the link to the Equality Act you'll see you need a Person (B).

What PROOF do you have on Moore?

What PROOF do you have on Trump?

TRUMP IS MAKING ISRAEL GREAT AGAIN!!!

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

That's just vulgar language. Trump didn't harass anyone in particular - if you read the link to the Equality Act you'll see you need a Person (B).

What PROOF do you have on Moore?

What PROOF do you have on Trump?

LOL you're a clown.

moy believes any criminal that denies wrongdoing as long as there is no physical proof.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:43:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

That's just vulgar language. Trump didn't harass anyone in particular - if you read the link to the Equality Act you'll see you need a Person (B).

What PROOF do you have on Moore?

What PROOF do you have on Trump?

LOL you're a clown.

moy believes any criminal that denies wrongdoing as long as there is no physical proof.

If there's no proof then I have to give the accused the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. That's how I roll.

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:45:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

That's just vulgar language. Trump didn't harass anyone in particular - if you read the link to the Equality Act you'll see you need a Person (B).

What PROOF do you have on Moore?

What PROOF do you have on Trump?

LOL you're a clown.

moy believes any criminal that denies wrongdoing as long as there is no physical proof.

If there's no proof then I have to give the accused the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. That's how I roll.

In court. But this isn't court. Franken hasn't been proven guilty of anything either.

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 1:55:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 12/6/2017 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Franken should step down along with Farenthold, Moore, and Trump.

LOL!! You need proof first!

Puh-Leeeez let dirt on Durbin come out next!! He's the next grandstander that needs to go!!!

So if Franken had denied all the allegations, you'd be arguing that he should stay in office?

I saw the photos of him sexually harassing a women passed out on a plane. You see, that's PROOF!!

One joke photo of him pretending to grab Tweeden is not proof that he harassed/assaulted women, it's proof that he made a bad joke. We have more on Trump and Moore than that photo.

pretending to grab her breasts without her consent is DEFINITELY sexual harassment.

.....

What is sexual harassment?

The Equality Act of 2010 has this definition: “unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them.” It covers indecent or suggestive remarks, unwanted touching, requests or demands for sex and the dissemination of pornography.

You mean like "joking" around with a someone you work with about how you like to just go up and grab women by the *****?

Seems to fit the indecent or suggestive remarks part of the definition perfectly.

That's just vulgar language. Trump didn't harass anyone in particular - if you read the link to the Equality Act you'll see you need a Person (B).

What PROOF do you have on Moore?

What PROOF do you have on Trump?

LOL you're a clown.

moy believes any criminal that denies wrongdoing as long as there is no physical proof.

If there's no proof then I have to give the accused the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. That's how I roll.

In court. But this isn't court. Franken hasn't been proven guilty of anything either.

In life. That's how I roll.

It's better to wait for the facts to come in than to jump to conclusions.

Franken announcement tomorrow..... BUH BYE!!!!

Roughly 3.6 million people have signed up for coverage through HealthCare.gov so far, putting enrollment on track to finish far short of last year's totals.

The numbers that matter: There’s just one week left in this year’s enrollment window. And though HealthCare.gov usually sees a surge of applications at the end of the sign-up window, enrollment would need to more than double, by Dec. 15, to match the 9 million people who signed up through the federal marketplace last year.

The bottom line: That’s unlikely — and in fact, the last-minute surge was already well under way at this point in the last enrollment period.




^^^^Oblundercare is already dead.

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 2:27:00 PM (view original):

Roughly 3.6 million people have signed up for coverage through HealthCare.gov so far, putting enrollment on track to finish far short of last year's totals.

The numbers that matter: There’s just one week left in this year’s enrollment window. And though HealthCare.gov usually sees a surge of applications at the end of the sign-up window, enrollment would need to more than double, by Dec. 15, to match the 9 million people who signed up through the federal marketplace last year.

The bottom line: That’s unlikely — and in fact, the last-minute surge was already well under way at this point in the last enrollment period.




^^^^Oblundercare is already dead.

You know this is a bad thing, right?

Destabilizing the insurance market isn’t going to cause rates and deductibles to go down. It’s just going to speed us towards single payer.

Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 12/6/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
so, what proof do you have for Franken, other than one picture (or at least I've only seen one) in which you can't really tell if he is even touching her? Admittedly, it was a stupid, tasteless thing to do, but what does it prove other than Franken would stoop pretty low for a laugh? other than that it is the same in all those cases...he said/she said

The women in that photo had no choice. She was unable to consent to the photo and Franken took advantage of that. Shameful!!

Yes, it was shameful and stupid. I'm not defending it, but both Moore and Trump are accused of a much worse. As far as I can tell Franken wasn't touching her. She would never even know about it if not for the picture. That's kind of like your defense of Moore that it allegedly happened before you were born, so it doesn't matter.

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Posted by moy23 on 12/6/2017 1:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 12/6/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
so, what proof do you have for Franken, other than one picture (or at least I've only seen one) in which you can't really tell if he is even touching her? Admittedly, it was a stupid, tasteless thing to do, but what does it prove other than Franken would stoop pretty low for a laugh? other than that it is the same in all those cases...he said/she said

The women in that photo had no choice. She was unable to consent to the photo and Franken took advantage of that. Shameful!!

Yes, it was shameful and stupid. I'm not defending it, but both Moore and Trump are accused of a much worse. As far as I can tell Franken wasn't touching her. She would never even know about it if not for the picture. That's kind of like your defense of Moore that it allegedly happened before you were born, so it doesn't matter.

It was more than shameful and stupid. What Franken did in that photo is sexual harassment as defined by the law ("unwanted conduct of a sexual nature which has the purpose or effect of violating someone’s dignity". The photo proves that Franken sexually harassed Tweeden. End of story. Period.

Both Moore and Trump are he said / she said scenarios. Nothing is proven at this point in time. Show me PROOF and I will sing a different tune, but not before that.

No you won't sing a different tune, moy, because you don't give a ****. That was the point of my poll a few pages back. You don't care what the President does, the fact he is "your guy" trumps (pun intended) everything else.