TRUMP: Best President ever Topic

He's the orange stain all by himself
6/22/2020 9:54 PM
"President Trump had a rough weekend. First on Saturday, the Oklahoma rally was a bust. Then on Sunday, he got a card reminding him he's Eric's father."
6/23/2020 9:43 AM
A @FoxNews commentator just ripped me with lies, with nobody defending. They talked about the “friendly” protesters (they set the Church on fire the day before. They were anything but friendly), and how I stood and held the Bible upside down - it wasn’t upside down. @edhenry
6/25/2020 2:57 PM
Today is the 4 month anniversary of "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to 0, that's a pretty good job we've done."
6/26/2020 10:06 AM
Hannity: What's at stake in this election as you compare and contrast, and what are your top priority items for a second term?"

Dementia Don: "Well, one of the things that will be really great, you know, the word experience is still good. I always say talent is more important than experience. I've always said that. But the word experience is a very important word. It's a very important meaning."
6/27/2020 2:22 AM
6/27/2020 3:12 AM

Trump boasts veterans law first passed by Obama as one of his greatest achievements

6/27/2020 4:28 AM
Posted by bronxcheer on 6/27/2020 3:12:00 AM (view original):
He’s ******* insane. I mean this illustrates this perfectly. Honestly, him being insane is the kindest interpretation regarding this “we’d have less cases if we didn’t test so much” nonsense. We just gloss over so much of it because we know more is coming but seriously sit and marinate on this one.

“We’d have less cases if we didn’t test.” I said this before, but would my wife have been less pregnant if we didn’t take a pregnancy test? It’s an insane claim.
6/27/2020 10:01 AM
I don't think he's insane (well, he might be - I should say I don't think this is proof that he's insane). I think he's dumb. I think he's being told something, not really understanding it, and then doing a really bad job of trying to repeat it to the public. Because there's more than a kernel of truth underlying what he's saying.

We never dropped our rate of confirmed cases more than 25-30% from the peak rate, and have had climbing case rates for several weeks now. However, hospitalization and fatality rates have been declining consistently since mid-April, and by over 70%. Somewhere in there we got one drug approved that has had modest success moderating the severe cases, but that can't explain those kinds of declines. There has probably been some demographic shift, but that doesn't fully explain the decline either. I also think that the magnitude of the demographic shift has been wildly overstated by the media. All3 said his family had covid and only had cold symptoms. In March and April those people couldn't get tested. Now, in most places, they can. By and large people with mild symptoms skew younger, so observed confirmed case rates in younger people will climb when testing becomes more available. Younger people are probably also exposing themselves to more risk (though I see plenty of older people in my area doing things like congregating on porches with their neighbors, and have since it was blatantly against the law here, or not wearing a mask in the grocery store, which is still against the law), but changes in testing policy are definitely playing a role in observed shifts. Certainly nobody should have been buying it when, at the peak of the outbreak in New York, almost nobody under 20 was testing positive. It's highly unlikely that kids were just going to be immune. We just weren't testing them.

So the point of all this is that much of the perception of lack of improvement, based on confirmed cases, was probably a bit misleading. I think that epidemiologists in the Federal government knew this. Trump was probably getting briefings along the lines of "We do think things are getting better, we're testing more so observed case rates aren't declining very much, but we think that real case rates are probably declining. We don't want to broadcast this information to the public because our priority is protecting lives, and if we tell people things are getting better then they'll behave even more stupidly than they already are." But Trump's priority isn't pushing behavior in the direction of saving the greatest number of lives, it's pushing behavior to accrue the maximum number of votes in November. He's not that altruistic. So he's trying to change the messaging, and he's actually dumb enough to think the right thing to do isn't just tell people to focus on death and hospitalization rates but actually to test less.

Like I said, he's dumb.

Also, I do think it's pretty clear at this point that in many areas real case rates are actually rising now. But I also think they were declining much more, and for much longer, than many people recognized.

Also, I apologize for any typos I missed. My 9 month old has been banging on my keyboard.
6/27/2020 10:54 AM
That’s a fair read.
6/27/2020 11:06 AM
It is, but FWIW I hope I never said someone in my family had covid. (If I did, it was the drugs I'm on.)
Given everything else we're going through these days, I'd certainly hope not to deal with that too. Just don't want to misrepresent.
6/27/2020 6:39 PM (edited)
Hmmm, I thought that was you. Maybe it was cc.
6/27/2020 11:25 AM
Yes CCCP mentioned that He and his wife had it. I asked about his kids but he never replied whether they avoided getting it.
6/27/2020 12:00 PM
6/27/2020 12:51 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 6/27/2020 12:00:00 PM (view original):
Yes CCCP mentioned that He and his wife had it. I asked about his kids but he never replied whether they avoided getting it.
do you think CCCP got it because his boy trump said it was a hoax at first so CCCP wasn't taking any precautions? Whatever the reason I am glad he and his wife are okay now.
6/27/2020 2:14 PM
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