BIDEN: Damn Fine President Today Topic



1/15/2022 6:55 PM
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1. Hit early vaccine targets faster than initial projections, the vaccine rollout was awesome
2. Finally pulled out of Afghanistan; for the first time in decades the US is out of international conflicts and the pullout resulted in zero American deaths from the Taliban to my knowledge
3. Has nearly fully ended the drone war in Yemen
4. Passed the American Rescue plan which has proved to be a massive economic stimulus and pulled millions out of poverty
5. Passed the BIB WITH Republican votes, the largest infrastructure package in a generation which Trump utterly failed to accomplish
6. Is working towards new accomplishments like the BBB, voting rights, Iran Deal, etc, and this is all done with the slimmest majority in the Senate and House - super impressive
7. A laundry list of great EO's - could go into detail on almost all of them

That's just what I can think of now. A pretty successful first year considering what he was left with and the slim majority in house and senate

You listed
1. Afghanistan, a full positive for the admin
2. COVID, which I give him plus marks for in terms of the vaccine distribution; can't really control the new variants but hopefully omnicron gives us herd immunity
3. Inflation, which is debatably even linked to Biden
4. Cities burning and kids learning remotely, which happened mostly under Trump(?) and has nothing to do with the Biden Presidency anyway (remote learning is a state and local policy)
5. Mandates, which was debatable at the time but probably a bad idea in hindsight, at least in the way it was applied
6. Uniting the country, which was a bad promise to make, but pulling as many votes as he did for BIB was awesome

Didn't see the "can't pass the leg so you change the rules" argument when Republicans flipped on ACB, or use gerrymandering and the Electoral College to gain huge advantages but whatever lmao. He hasn't packed the courts so that's a non-argument.
1/15/2022 9:03 PM
In one year, Biden already managed to achieve more of a legislative victory than Trump ever did in 4. Trump passed tax cuts (for the rich that didn't actually end up helping the economy at all), and not much else.

Biden passed the ARP and BIB with likely more to come. WITH A MORE SLIM MAJORITY!! Not too late to hop on the bandwagon.
1/15/2022 9:05 PM
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WAY!
1/15/2022 9:18 PM
And all the Repubs say : "Border disaster ! Gas prices !!"

Guys guys guys. People from both sides will and always have done so be able to point at something about the other, and yes it's usually as a distraction to their own need for housekeeping. 2 of the best prez's in the history of ever were assassinated, both ''sides" included. Can't plz everyone.

Since they both suck, I don't claim all in on either political persuasion. IF I were a Repub, I certainly wouldn't be a Trumplican. Biden came to accomplish 1 thing, in fact that's why he said he ran. Scoreboard. May we be so lucky next time, whichever side it is that has to keep Trump out.
1/15/2022 9:40 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 1/15/2022 9:17:00 PM (view original):
Neither party thrills me. They both burn through way too much of our money. I want the guy to be successful, if he does we all win.

I just don't see a guy who been latched onto the govt *** for 50 years as the solution. He doesn't look like he's capable of getting it done. She looks completely overmatched, doesn't know the issues, doesn't seem interested in growing into the job, as by the actions of her cabinet. They seem frustrated by her. His numbers are lousy, hers are worse. Your roster is weak if she's the best you could put on the ticket.

We can do better.
To be clear, the standards for a comparatively good American President are extremely low. Bush was one of the worst of all time, Obama was a disappointment, and Trump was Trump, so it's not like Biden is clearing a high bar when I call him the best Prez in recent years. We can do better, probably. But Biden has been pretty good.

He followed through on Infrastructure and Afghanistan, two promises that American Presidents had made for decades. In his first year!

That alone makes him a quality Prez imo
1/15/2022 10:53 PM
And if he somehow pulls off BBB and voting rights, he's gotta be approaching all time great
1/15/2022 10:54 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 1/15/2022 9:17:00 PM (view original):
Neither party thrills me. They both burn through way too much of our money. I want the guy to be successful, if he does we all win.

I just don't see a guy who been latched onto the govt *** for 50 years as the solution. He doesn't look like he's capable of getting it done. She looks completely overmatched, doesn't know the issues, doesn't seem interested in growing into the job, as by the actions of her cabinet. They seem frustrated by her. His numbers are lousy, hers are worse. Your roster is weak if she's the best you could put on the ticket.

We can do better.
Hard to do better if nobody decent ever runs.
1/16/2022 1:53 AM
Yup. True Dat Wylie!
1/16/2022 9:04 AM
Decent people run all the time. We just don't elect them.
1/16/2022 9:45 AM
Im with Tangplay on Biden.
And just by being President he is a vital president.
On jobs and unemployment rates he is one of the greatest ever.
He has also had to deal with China and Russia and has been skillful.
No more Helsinki humiliation of the United States which was the day the Unites States bended its knee before Russia.
He has done his job on covid. You can take a horse to the water but you cant make it drink.The Supreme Court helped the horse on that one.

Yeah he has been a very effective and imaginative President.
1/16/2022 11:38 AM
That depends on your definition of "decent" but I will qualify my statement some by limiting it to declare I was speaking about the 2 major Party Pres. Candidates given to us to choose "from". One example was needing to choose between Trump and Biden. For most of us that's a lesser of two evils choice. It was the same for many when it was "W" running for re-election vs. Kerry/Edwards, or Nixon Vs. McGovern. etc.

My experience with Pres. elections is that it's almost every time a choice between two folks that I (personally) have big issues with having any confidence in, or tolerance FOR. I don't know, maybe that says more about me than it does with the definition of "decent" but IMO I haven't seen very many Pres. candidates run by the Dems. OR Repugs. that inspire my confidence. Heck Ross Perot got 20% of the vote once against a couple of the clowns on the so-called Major Party tickets........... and I ain't all too sure of his competency (back THEN-he's dead now I think!) so that says a whole lot about how bad a lot of folks thought his TWO opponents were.

Good open question.

Other than Obama (a TOTAL lightning rod for this exercise) name a Major Party Candidate that any of Y'all believe was of "decent" quality or competence for us to choose from.

I'll start with a quick couple that come to mind.
John McCain and Mitt Romney.
Both only lost (probably) because they were up against the Obama phenomenon.

I can probably think of a couple more but I'll wait til I see IF any of the rest of you can find some decent ones.
1/16/2022 11:47 AM
John Kasich....best choice that ran in 2016.
1/16/2022 12:35 PM
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