Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

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Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 11:51:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):
There's no reason that housing will bust again. Obama didn't put forward any policies that cause loans to be "handed out like candy." Now you're the one who needs to provide facts. You're just making **** up.

Also inflation:



Household median income up over 10% since end of recession:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-administration-pushes-banks-to-make-home-loans-to-people-with-weaker-credit/2013/04/02/a8b4370c-9aef-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html?utm_term=.23e1661e09a6
Changing FHA standards isn't "handing out loans like candy." It's just allowing people with sub-700 credit scores to buy a home. They still have to show proof of income and meet other underwriting standards.
10/10/2017 11:56 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:48:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by bronxcheer on 10/10/2017 8:20:00 AM (view original):
Coordinating Fake news, ads on social media, money
The left can't seem to admit that they ran a bad candidate and that's why they lost. My only true gauge is the state of GA and I know Trump would have won there regardless, but most democrats didn't even like Hillary. They saw her as dishonest.
Can one of our resident leftists please explain why, in general, there is still such an overwhelming need among you to continue looking back and defending Hillary and Obama, instead of looking ahead?
Can you explain why Trump is only destroying Obamas legacy please?
That's an easy one. Obama's policies are bad policies that will destroy economic stability in America, which will in turn destroy economic stability throughout the world.
Really? Confusing Obama with Bush?
Nope, actually it applies to both.
Trump is the first president that is good for our economy since Clinton.
Trump isn't good for the economy. He's already proposing a tax increase on lower and middle income households.
I thought the same way when I was a low income earner. Do away with deductions. Create a flat tax. Everyone pays 10% or whatever the number becomes. It doesn't hurt for everyone to pay their fair share. You may say, well that not fair for the guy that makes $10k per year to pay the same rate as the guy that makes $10B per year, but my man that makes $10B per year just paid the gov't $1B. Sounds like a fair amount to me.
A) 10% isn't close to enough money to run the government

B) It's stupid to increase taxes on poor people if your goal is to improve the economy

C) Taxes don't need to be "fair," they need to be effective. Tax policy should collect enough revenue to run the government while doing the least harm to the taxpayers. A flat tax does not do that.
Then the left needs to stop saying "pay their fair share" if being fair is irrelevant. It's a way for them to play on people's emotions. Their new slogan should be, "we know that's it's not fair, but the wealthy should continue to give up 40+% of their income while the bottom 50% pays 0."
10/10/2017 12:30 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 11:51:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):
There's no reason that housing will bust again. Obama didn't put forward any policies that cause loans to be "handed out like candy." Now you're the one who needs to provide facts. You're just making **** up.

Also inflation:



Household median income up over 10% since end of recession:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-administration-pushes-banks-to-make-home-loans-to-people-with-weaker-credit/2013/04/02/a8b4370c-9aef-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html?utm_term=.23e1661e09a6
Changing FHA standards isn't "handing out loans like candy." It's just allowing people with sub-700 credit scores to buy a home. They still have to show proof of income and meet other underwriting standards.
If you're score is below 700, that means you have a track record of not paying your bills. 700 is pretty easy to meet. It is most certainly like giving loans like they were handing out candy.
10/10/2017 12:34 PM
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I'm OK with that. I've never liked the "fair share" rhetoric. We set up a progressive tax code because it makes the most sense. We should be working to make it more progressive to increase economic growth.
10/10/2017 12:34 PM
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Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 11:51:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/10/2017 11:45:00 AM (view original):
There's no reason that housing will bust again. Obama didn't put forward any policies that cause loans to be "handed out like candy." Now you're the one who needs to provide facts. You're just making **** up.

Also inflation:



Household median income up over 10% since end of recession:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-administration-pushes-banks-to-make-home-loans-to-people-with-weaker-credit/2013/04/02/a8b4370c-9aef-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html?utm_term=.23e1661e09a6
Changing FHA standards isn't "handing out loans like candy." It's just allowing people with sub-700 credit scores to buy a home. They still have to show proof of income and meet other underwriting standards.
If you're score is below 700, that means you have a track record of not paying your bills. 700 is pretty easy to meet. It is most certainly like giving loans like they were handing out candy.
Not necessarily true. You can have a sub-700 score if you have a relatively short credit history or if you have a large student loan debt. All Obama proposed was opening up the standards to consider people with sub-700. They still have to meet other standards.
10/10/2017 12:38 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/9/2017 12:39:00 PM (view original):
He's the President. By definition, he's a politician, even if he doesn't know what he's doing.
if one runs for president and wins, one is a politician...a pretty good one, actually. (not that being a good politician is a compliment) I'm so tired of hearing how Trump is not a politician.
10/10/2017 12:40 PM
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Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/9/2017 12:39:00 PM (view original):
He's the President. By definition, he's a politician, even if he doesn't know what he's doing.
if one runs for president and wins, one is a politician...a pretty good one, actually. (not that being a good politician is a compliment) I'm so tired of hearing how Trump is not a politician.
What people are saying is that he's not a career politician. He's an entrepreneur. He's a swindler, but he has been very successful in the open market.
10/10/2017 1:17 PM
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I mean, not exactly the open market. He's taken advantage of government protections and regulations in order to file bankruptcy multiple times and shield his assets through corporate entities.

In a true open market he'd be penniless after all of his debts were collected.
10/10/2017 1:25 PM
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Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/9/2017 12:39:00 PM (view original):
He's the President. By definition, he's a politician, even if he doesn't know what he's doing.
if one runs for president and wins, one is a politician...a pretty good one, actually. (not that being a good politician is a compliment) I'm so tired of hearing how Trump is not a politician.
What people are saying is that he's not a career politician. He's an entrepreneur. He's a swindler, but he has been very successful in the open market.
he ran for president a few times before h won. seems like he was trying to make a career of politics to me.
10/10/2017 1:27 PM
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Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/9/2017 12:39:00 PM (view original):
He's the President. By definition, he's a politician, even if he doesn't know what he's doing.
if one runs for president and wins, one is a politician...a pretty good one, actually. (not that being a good politician is a compliment) I'm so tired of hearing how Trump is not a politician.
What people are saying is that he's not a career politician. He's an entrepreneur. He's a swindler, but he has been very successful in the open market.
he ran for president a few times before h won. seems like he was trying to make a career of politics to me.
Did he? I don't recall him ever running before 2016.
10/10/2017 1:33 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 10/10/2017 1:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/10/2017 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/10/2017 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/9/2017 12:39:00 PM (view original):
He's the President. By definition, he's a politician, even if he doesn't know what he's doing.
if one runs for president and wins, one is a politician...a pretty good one, actually. (not that being a good politician is a compliment) I'm so tired of hearing how Trump is not a politician.
What people are saying is that he's not a career politician. He's an entrepreneur. He's a swindler, but he has been very successful in the open market.
he ran for president a few times before h won. seems like he was trying to make a career of politics to me.
Did he? I don't recall him ever running before 2016.
That's what I was thinking.
10/10/2017 1:40 PM
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yes. reform party run in 99. Floated the idea a few other times.
10/10/2017 2:25 PM
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I stand corrected. I feel like I get a pass on that one as I was only 12 years old.
10/10/2017 2:39 PM
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Tax all churches and religions
10/10/2017 2:51 PM
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Posted by bronxcheer on 10/10/2017 2:51:00 PM (view original):
Tax all churches and religions
Stupidity at it's finest.
10/10/2017 2:54 PM
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