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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 4:11:00 PM (view original):
Damn this country is divided!

Damn Obama and his division! Let the KKK protest in peace! Dont prostest the flag! Listen to Trump! Everyone else is fake news! TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

KKK should be able to say whatever they want. People should be able to protest the flag. First Amendment.

Obama was and still is an anti semite.

1. I never said that the KKK could not protest. Again, Trump should have said that he never agreed with the KKK, not that they should not protest.

2. Obama is not anti-semetic and you have no evidence. Again, ad hominem, aka calling BLM communist and calling obama anti-semetic

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 4:37:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

Innovation that leads to warfare. Guess what? We spend too much on military. You talk about innovation, but in this day and age we can innovate without military. We don't need to spend this much to stay safe. Other countries prove this. We could do so much more with our excess money if we cut the military, even if we are still spending more than anyone else.

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

Which has what to do with the FACT that Obama and his Democratic Congress raised the debt more than every other President ever?
Little tough staying on topic when you're getting pounded on each one, huh?

Yes, fixing the economy after a recession and a new health care bill costs money. I guarantee you trump will add more to the debt than Obama.

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 4:48:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Did you see my post? All truth.

Sure did Boris. It's BS! Revisionist history spun through a biased perspective. Where DID you find it. YOU sure as hell didn't write it. You need to edit better. This "piece" was written long ago............ likely when Obama was still in office. It says (about Obamacare) "It will be repealed with Obama's ouster"

Not only has that been proven to be incorrect. It's proof positive it was written long ago........ by somebody ELSE!!

I'll start listening to your political opinions Boris when you actual say something smart of your own--instead of just peddling the repugnican (and grossly incorrect right-wing views) party lines like a paid parrot!

Every time (damn near) the Republicans come anywhere's near the economy they wreck it and leave us with an economic disaster!
I've never understood why anyone thinks the Repugnants are better with the economy......... history shows otherwise!
And for the record.......... the democratic PARTY sucks, too!

Come again? What part do you disagree with? And no it was written post Obama. In fact it was written in January 2017 in another argument I had with a Dem friend of mine. I cannot recall where the data came from as it was so long ago. BTW - you and I are cool so no need for ad hominems.

The argument he made still stands. january 2017 is too long ago.


You started the insults I recall.

Alternative facts at its finest

Show me one ad hominem.

BLM=Communist and hate group, Obama=Anti-Semite?

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2017 5:10:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Did you see my post? All truth.

Sure did Boris. It's BS! Revisionist history spun through a biased perspective. Where DID you find it. YOU sure as hell didn't write it. You need to edit better. This "piece" was written long ago............ likely when Obama was still in office. It says (about Obamacare) "It will be repealed with Obama's ouster"

Not only has that been proven to be incorrect. It's proof positive it was written long ago........ by somebody ELSE!!

I'll start listening to your political opinions Boris when you actual say something smart of your own--instead of just peddling the repugnican (and grossly incorrect right-wing views) party lines like a paid parrot!

Every time (damn near) the Republicans come anywhere's near the economy they wreck it and leave us with an economic disaster!
I've never understood why anyone thinks the Repugnants are better with the economy......... history shows otherwise!
And for the record.......... the democratic PARTY sucks, too!

Come again? What part do you disagree with? And no it was written post Obama. In fact it was written in January 2017 in another argument I had with a Dem friend of mine. I cannot recall where the data came from as it was so long ago. BTW - you and I are cool so no need for ad hominems.

The argument he made still stands. january 2017 is too long ago.


You started the insults I recall.

Alternative facts at its finest

Show me one ad hominem.

BLM=Communist and hate group, Obama=Anti-Semite?

Obama is an anti semite. Google it if you don't believe me. Any group that excludes others due to the color of their skin, which is something they cannot control is a hate group. Google BLM meetings and note their "African American persons only" requirements. An ad hominem is attacking the poster. I may attack the groups and Obama but I don't personally disparage you. That is an ad hominem. If I said you were an anti semite then you would be correct.

Please confirm that you understand.

Thank you

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

Innovation that leads to warfare. Guess what? We spend too much on military. You talk about innovation, but in this day and age we can innovate without military. We don't need to spend this much to stay safe. Other countries prove this. We could do so much more with our excess money if we cut the military, even if we are still spending more than anyone else.

What about the jobs the military creates for the private sector. Companies like Lockheed, do you know how many 100s of subcontractors they use? I absolutely think we need the military for innovation. Apple will not even tell the CIA how to unlock a phone. We need to ensure that we create the best and be first to it. Inventions like the microwave, cell phones and GPS came from the military. There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.

Sir, I am curious. What do you do for a living? What is your educational background? I am not trying to be confrontational just trying to garner perspective.

Thank you

I am enjoying this civil debate.

Supreme Court poised to deal a sharp blow to unions for teachers and public employees



^^^^GORSUCH!!!!

GORSUCH is the gift that will keep on giving!!! #winning

History, anyone? This is quite interesting. I had never heard this one...


http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/tandey.htm

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Supreme Court poised to deal a sharp blow to unions for teachers and public employees



^^^^GORSUCH!!!!

Another loss for the middle class.

Wonder when trump's voters will realize they've been conned? Maybe when he raises their taxes?

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Posted by moy23 on 9/28/2017 5:21:00 PM (view original):
Supreme Court poised to deal a sharp blow to unions for teachers and public employees



^^^^GORSUCH!!!!

Another loss for the middle class.

Wonder when trump's voters will realize they've been conned? Maybe when he raises their taxes?

And a loss for Democrats who love unions!!!

A loss for people who want to see wage growth.

I guess that's just Democrats now.

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2017 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Did you see my post? All truth.

Sure did Boris. It's BS! Revisionist history spun through a biased perspective. Where DID you find it. YOU sure as hell didn't write it. You need to edit better. This "piece" was written long ago............ likely when Obama was still in office. It says (about Obamacare) "It will be repealed with Obama's ouster"

Not only has that been proven to be incorrect. It's proof positive it was written long ago........ by somebody ELSE!!

I'll start listening to your political opinions Boris when you actual say something smart of your own--instead of just peddling the repugnican (and grossly incorrect right-wing views) party lines like a paid parrot!

Every time (damn near) the Republicans come anywhere's near the economy they wreck it and leave us with an economic disaster!
I've never understood why anyone thinks the Repugnants are better with the economy......... history shows otherwise!
And for the record.......... the democratic PARTY sucks, too!

Come again? What part do you disagree with? And no it was written post Obama. In fact it was written in January 2017 in another argument I had with a Dem friend of mine. I cannot recall where the data came from as it was so long ago. BTW - you and I are cool so no need for ad hominems.

The argument he made still stands. january 2017 is too long ago.


You started the insults I recall.

Alternative facts at its finest

Show me one ad hominem.

BLM=Communist and hate group, Obama=Anti-Semite?

Obama is an anti semite. Google it if you don't believe me. Any group that excludes others due to the color of their skin, which is something they cannot control is a hate group. Google BLM meetings and note their "African American persons only" requirements. An ad hominem is attacking the poster. I may attack the groups and Obama but I don't personally disparage you. That is an ad hominem. If I said you were an anti semite then you would be correct.

Please confirm that you understand.

Thank you

BLM is not a hate group. The creator of it is actually against the radical BLMers. Just because some people in a group act out, does not mean that the whole group feels the same way. it is a small minority.

Your logic would also apply to surveys for only black or only white people for instance. There is a difference here, that you do not understand.

Obama is not an anti-semite, and your post did nothing to back that claim. You know that is an insult to someone without any evidence right?

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

Innovation that leads to warfare. Guess what? We spend too much on military. You talk about innovation, but in this day and age we can innovate without military. We don't need to spend this much to stay safe. Other countries prove this. We could do so much more with our excess money if we cut the military, even if we are still spending more than anyone else.

What about the jobs the military creates for the private sector. Companies like Lockheed, do you know how many 100s of subcontractors they use? I absolutely think we need the military for innovation. Apple will not even tell the CIA how to unlock a phone. We need to ensure that we create the best and be first to it. Inventions like the microwave, cell phones and GPS came from the military. There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.

Sir, I am curious. What do you do for a living? What is your educational background? I am not trying to be confrontational just trying to garner perspective.

Thank you

I am enjoying this civil debate.

Again, you can reform innovation policy without the military. Why the expensive middleman?

And no, you are wrong on the 'There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.' Spending as much as we do SCREAMS 'we want war'. In fact, it helps North Korea justify their military programs. The more we spend, the more others (China, Iran, North Korea) will spend to match us. This is not a good thing. Again, I don't see the issue with still being #1 in the world, just not being a really high #1.

I will tell you if you tell me.