Norm just observed first hand the difference between having a press team with so-so IQs (his 8-20 season) vs. having a press team with great IQs (this season). ATH and SPD won't help you win by themselves.

As a member of his conf, we have had a few conversations about that topic throughout the last couple seasons. Nice of him to let me win one against him this year.

Congrats to Norm on winning the NT. Way to show how you guys play ball in the MIAA, it is a good conference that doesnt get as much respect as some of the other conferences. There are at least 5 coaches in that conference that can hang with anyone in DIII.

Quote: Originally posted by wronoj on 5/19/2008Should have the updated list out shortly.

Quit teasing wronoj. Last time you said that i was freaking out for two weeks. checking the forum every hour on the hour.

Season 29 list

here it is... a surprise at the top, but Anderson's season 19 championship dropped off the list, and so ends his reign at number one.

Points	Ranking	School		Previous
258	1	Chicago		2
245	2	Anderson		1
238	3	NC Wesleyan	5
238	4	E. Oregon		6
235	5	Arcadia		4
231	6	Emory		3
221	7	W. Connecticut St.	8
220	8	Hartwick		9
218	9	Brandeis		12
206	10	Montclair St.	10
204	11	New York U.	14
203	12	SUNY Maritime	18
203	13	St. Olaf		11
199	14	Worcester St.	13
195	15	Lycoming	7
194	16	La Roche		15
191	17	Johns Hopkins	21
183	18	Mount Ida		20
181	19	Baldwin-Wallace	23
172	20	Oberlin		24
168	21	John Carroll	25
166	22	E. Texas Baptist	27
165	23	Sul Ross St	30
165	24	Manhattanville	28
165	25	Stillman		16

Just missed the top 25:

164	26	Keuka		29
162	27	Dallas		22
154	28	Cabrini		32
152	29	Carthage College	33
152	30	Puget Sound	19
146	31	John Jay		NR
144	32	Muhlenberg	NR
143	33	Neumann College	36
138	34	Plattsburgh St.	34
137	35	Macalester	NR
135	36	Hood		38
133	37	Westminster (PA)	40
133	38	Curry		NR
131	39	Maranatha Baptist Bible (MBBC)	41
122	40	Skidmore		NR
113	41	Centenary		NR
111	42	St. Norbert	35
103	43	Roanoke College	NR
100	44	Bethany		NR
98	45	Cazenovia		39

Eight new schools this season: John Jay, Muhlenberg, Macalester, Curry, Skidmore, Centenary, Roanoke College, Bethany. Congrats.

In danger of falling out if they don't make next postseason are: Lycoming, E. Texas Baptist, Stillman, Dallas, Cabrini, Puget Sound, Muhlenberg, Plattsburgh St., Hood, Maranatha Baptist Bible, St. Norbert, Roanoke, Bethany, and Cazenovia.

Possible entries next season, if they make the postseason: Amherst, Augustana, Daniel Webster, Drew, Greenville, Medaille, Palm Beach Atlantic, Rockford,St. Mary's of Maryland, Thiel, Transylvania, Washington, and Wheaton.

Dropped out this season: Alvernia, Connecticut, and Wheaton.

45 teams this season, I believe a new record. Look for Chicago and Anderson to do battle for #1 again next season, with taz' NC coming off the books, then I predict NC Wesleyan will take the top spot the following season, as he has 2 dead seasons at the end of the list right now, and they should come off the books the next 2 seasons...

thanks for the quick update wronoj, I don't like to see my team in danger of falling out though but only way I see that happening is if I make the jump up, its either this season or next not sure yet

We're number 1, we're number 1. After seeing that note about Anderson's season 19 title falling off the books, Chicago quickly checks to find their lone title falls off the books next season. Better win us another one or we'll have a new #1 next year.

thanks again for the list wronoj, always a joy to follow and watch.

that was fast...

all of the Big 5 Tourney schools in the top 10...geeeeez...no wonder i have only won like 2 games in that tourney so far...

congrats Taz - if i could have kept my team at a high level i might have been able to sneak in there myself...happy to still be in the top 5 tho...

gotta love dropping off.....ughh. worst part is, there is no help on the way

Thanks guys! I thought we had a chance to make a deep run, but figured we were due for a loss at some point. We got hot at the right time and finished with a 16 game win streak to bring home the 'ship. Not sure what happened last season. We don't like to talk about it much around here!

Congrats on the NT, norm. You soundly squashed my delusions of a FF. nice job.

Had my chance to make the list this season (all those PIT berths gotta be good for something), but failed miserably. That's what happens when your "stud" sophmore PG decides to play like garbage most of the season. Now I've got at least three more seasons before I can make it on.

yeah, kreller, looks like you were just one or two wins from squeaking into the PIT, too... at least this gives you something to shoot for.