Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 3:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 12/20/2017 11:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 10:07:00 AM (view original):
Break it, how?

Again, Europe has been very welcoming and they are major victims of terror threats and sharia violence vs. women. How do you explain that? In Palestine if you state that you are an atheist and move away from Islam they can and will end your life. That is the rule of the land. Is it a cycle of hate or cycle of honesty and defense?

At some point will you ever be honest with yourself tangplay and admit that some people are just plain bad?

I AM NOT TRYING TO DEFEND PALESTINE. I believe in love and compassion in the face of violence, and do not believe in redemptive violence. Thus, I don't believe in attacking Palestine just because they are different from us, and perhaps, bad.

Sigh....you are hopeless.

By practicing Christianity, I am hopeless?

Templars practiced Christianity too. The phrase "turn the other cheek" does not mean don't strike back. It means turn so that they slap you with the forehand as an equal not the backhand that was used to slap those subservient to the attacker. While you're praying they are practicing in their terror camps to end you.

Do you at least see, partially, where I am coming from with this?

Posted by laramiebob on 12/20/2017 12:17:00 PM (view original):
Yes Boris. Some people are bad. But you're trying to condemn an entire "faith" (creed?) with a broad "they're all killers" stroke. Are they?
Isn't that exactly what the Nazis did to the Jewish people? Condemn them all in a single stroke of hatred and fear?

As to the KSA (Took me a bit to figure out who you were talking about)........ I referred to them as a "friendly NATION" in the sense that they are supposedly an allie of the U.S.!! The Bush family (2 GOP POTUS) have been quite close to the Saudi Royal family for decades!! (Oil, you know........ ever see Dallas?) lol

Anyway, what are friends for if NOT to stand up for their friends. This whole terrorism crap (at least the international political part of it that is related to Islam believers) is really NOT our problem. It's the problem of the civilized portion of the globe that is Islamic! They must recognize that WE (the rest of the world) can't tell the difference between the good guys (if there be any) and the terrorists at the present time and thus.......... THEY (The Islamic World) has a problem............ We ain't gonna take it any longer! They need told as (mostly) Arab Nations that the time has come to declare their allegiance....... either stand up clearly and declare war on your Brothers in Islam who practice terrorism as a means of religious dogma or we will declare you allied with terrorists, cut off all support, aid, etc and (ultimately, if necessary) declare war on you---- the Arab Nations of the globe.

Seems to me it's an either or choice. I don't see middle ground. Religious extremism that includes terrorism as a weapon much be ended and it is the responsibility of those WITHIN the faith to do so internally. Or face harsh consequences from the rest of a United Global alliance!!!

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I agree with everything you said sans the Jews/Muslims comparison. The Jews were not causing acts of terror. They were rich. Hitler wanted their wealth so he said they killed Christ let's kill them and take their money to fund the Nazi party. I am not condemning anyone I just want all the facts on the table so we can discuss rationally.

The tax bill is not perfect. Under reconciliation rules, Congress, to some extent, had their hands tied. Once in place, improvements will be made.

This is a gap. 80% of Americans will get a tax break, but only 17% in Richard Rubin's poll think they will see a tax cut.

Here is some interesting reading...who's money is it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454801/democrats-republican-tax-bill-theft

Just waiting to see how long till the GNP goes over 4%.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 4:51:00 PM (view original):
Templars practiced Christianity too. The phrase "turn the other cheek" does not mean don't strike back. It means turn so that they slap you with the forehand as an equal not the backhand that was used to slap those subservient to the attacker. While you're praying they are practicing in their terror camps to end you.

Do you at least see, partially, where I am coming from with this?

I understand Jesus's teachings differently, and I think the bible is VERY clear on whether redemptive violence is OK.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 4:51:00 PM (view original):
Templars practiced Christianity too. The phrase "turn the other cheek" does not mean don't strike back. It means turn so that they slap you with the forehand as an equal not the backhand that was used to slap those subservient to the attacker. While you're praying they are practicing in their terror camps to end you.

Do you at least see, partially, where I am coming from with this?

This is not correct. Jesus said, "if someone slaps you on the right cheek, turn him the other also." It had nothing to do with forehand or backhand. It most certainly means do not strike back.

The full verse is:

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." (Matthew 5:38-39)

Google what I said and see.

Posted by DoctorKz on 12/20/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
The tax bill is not perfect. Under reconciliation rules, Congress, to some extent, had their hands tied. Once in place, improvements will be made.

This is a gap. 80% of Americans will get a tax break, but only 17% in Richard Rubin's poll think they will see a tax cut.

Here is some interesting reading...who's money is it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454801/democrats-republican-tax-bill-theft

People in high tax states will pay more. Aka NY, NJ, CT, MA, CA.

No need. I can just read Matthew 5.

Posted by cccp1014 on 12/20/2017 8:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 12/20/2017 7:13:00 PM (view original):
The tax bill is not perfect. Under reconciliation rules, Congress, to some extent, had their hands tied. Once in place, improvements will be made.

This is a gap. 80% of Americans will get a tax break, but only 17% in Richard Rubin's poll think they will see a tax cut.

Here is some interesting reading...who's money is it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454801/democrats-republican-tax-bill-theft

People in high tax states will pay more. Aka NY, NJ, CT, MA, CA.

Depending on their income level. Only 5% of Americans will see their taxes rise. Almost all that will pay more are wealthy. Dems want to soak the rich, so what's the problem? The problem is that the progressives can't continue to move us towards socialism. What are the immigration laws in Venezuela? Try it, you might like eating out of a dumpster...

What did they cap the state and local tax deduction at?

$10k, I think...let me look...

Yep. 10k

Here are the key features. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/20/congress-votes-on-tax-bill-what-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-means-for.html

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tax-provisions-factbox/whats-in-the-final-republican-tax-bill-idUSKBN1ED27K

The individual rates are not permanent, because they were off limits through reconciliation. They are set to expire in 2025. Most likely they will be extended similarly to the Bush tax cuts.