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5/20/2010 1:26 PM
ncih
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That projects to a June 1st release.
5/20/2010 4:56 PM
colonels19
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How long does it take to approximate positions for 350 players?
5/20/2010 5:38 PM
ashamael
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Quote: Originally posted by colonels19 on 5/20/2010How long does it take to approximate positions for 350 players?

They're redoing position effectiveness AND defensive ratings for the entire player pool. So, my guess is 2-3 weeks.

I will be shocked if we have them by June 1st.
5/20/2010 5:45 PM
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And if we do, what a welcome surprise it will be. Regardless, at least we know this thing isn't completely dead; just in a coma.
5/20/2010 5:59 PM
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Thanks Josh...I misunderstood I guess, though if you go back and read seble's post about the situation, I think you can see how I would/could read into that meaning that is was only being done for this season. Nonetheless, I am incorrect. Thanks again...it'll be interesting to see what's trotted out here.

I personally hope that ALL players are at least 100% at 2 positions.
5/20/2010 5:59 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/20/2010
I personally hope that ALL players are at least 100% at 2 positions.

Really? Manute Bol? Mugsy Bogues? hundreds of others?
5/20/2010 6:19 PM
colonels19
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Quote: Originally Posted By ea162 on 5/20/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/20/2010

I personally hope that ALL players are at least 100% at 2 positions.

Really? Manute Bol? Mugsy Bogues? hundreds of others
YA RLY
5/20/2010 9:20 PM
ea162
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that woud be absolutely retarded
5/21/2010 1:21 AM
colonels19
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it isn't that far fetched....Muggsy playing SG...Bol playing PF...it adds to the "What if" concept...its not like I'm saying put Muggsy at C and Bol at PG. As far as positioning goes, I've always favored a looser interpretation than a stricter...if strict was working, why are they changing it?
5/21/2010 3:03 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 5/21/2010it isn't that far fetched....Muggsy playing SG...Bol playing PF...it adds to the "What if" concept...its not like I'm saying put Muggsy at C and Bol at PG. As far as positioning goes, I've always favored a looser interpretation than a stricter...if strict was working, why are they changing it


Like the other guy I won't say it's retarded, but I agree with him. Not EVERY player should be rated 100% at 2 positions. Bobby Hurley, Bol, Bogues, etc etc I would be bothered if guys like that who obviously are limited to 1 postition were rated 100% at 2. That said I believe we have agreed in the past about certain players who were obviously able to play multiple positions and weren't rated as such. Also guys who were inconsistent from yr to yr, D Howard Rodman Pippen all fit this bill. Pippen was extremely inconsistent. Rodman too, we had to fight tooth and nail to get them to make MJ eligible at PG for the 88-89 season when he was obviously the teams starting PG for a long stretch of the season. Let's just hope they get this thing right this time, my 6 pack was up a long while ago and I haven't purchased a SIM team since.
5/21/2010 4:24 PM
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there are certain guys that are iffy granted

but

it's not hundreds

and I would even argue that Bol hanging out on the 3pt line under Don Nelson's tutelage wasnt exactly playing center in the first place - I mean what's the difference between a center and PF anyway?
5/21/2010 5:06 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By felonius on 5/21/2010
there are certain guys that are iffy granted

but

it's not hundreds

and I would even argue that Bol hanging out on the 3pt line under Don Nelson's tutelage wasnt exactly playing center in the first place - I mean what's the difference between a center and PF anyway?



Yeah but there's been a ton of PG who were strictly that PG. Just because they could shoot a high % doesn't mean they should be eligible to play and more importantly defend the SG spot. I never really like Nash being 100% at the SG and I know that's being picky but Nash to me is a PG. Cousy Stockton Nash Tim Hardaway etc these guys were PG, not PG/SG
5/21/2010 5:37 PM
felonius
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just because he's barely 6 feet tall doesnt make AI a point guard
5/21/2010 7:45 PM
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just because Muggsy could be 100% effective at SG doesn't mean there aren't four thousand other guys that will be better at SG...

To my knowledge, they're not changing the engine. So there's absolutely no reason you'd ever want to put Muggsy at SG and try to win a championship, so that minor irritant is infinitely outweighed by how nice it would be to have other players available for 2 positions... I mean, I'd love to use Wilt and Shaq together, though that might not be super realistic. I'm okay with that. This is what if, after all. Right now we're living in a reality of bombers dominating, so I'm okay with a couple of guys playing positions they probably never could.

Positions are really outdated, anyway. Tim Duncan started at PF for most of his career, but he played the role of a traditional center. I think there are really four positions... big man (pf/c), forward (sf/pf), wing (sg/sf) and guard (sg/pg). Most players fall into one of those four categories... guys that can fulfill a role traditional to one of the positions on offense and cover both on defense. There are very few guys that I would say are strictly one position or could only play that one position.
5/21/2010 8:51 PM
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