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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Why is it discriminatory? Judges are people like you and me. I am speaking logically, what is the big deal in showing your id. Is it discriminatory when a police officer pulls you over and asks for a licence and registration? You have to produce an ID for rolling through a stop sign but not for voting? Seems crazy to me.
Because people would make black people do extra steps and block them from getting the ID/voting.
Wait, black people cannot get a drivers license? Do you have proof of this?
25% of them don't.
3/19/2018 10:35 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 8:31:00 AM (view original):
I do this for a living. I have not seen an economy this robust since 2005 - 2007 period. Rates are a great predictor. Under BHO, LIBOR was in 25bps range. Now its over 200 bps!!!

We can disagree on many aspects but you are flat wrong when it comes to the economy. In terms of matter of time until it implodes, well that is true of any economy.
2005-2007? I seem to remember a certain crisis that happened around that time......
Crisis happened in 09.
crisis exploded in 08...bush was still in office.
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:33:00 AM (view original):
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Well you guys get voter ID cards in WA we get nothing in MA. I am being 100% frank. When I go to vote, some 90 year old lady asks for my name and street address. She then crosses me off and I go and vote. I could easily say I am Joe Smith from a different street and she would not no the difference. I can then come back and say I am me 3 hours later when a different old lady is at the desk and vote again. The process is broken in MA.

How do you think we should fix this gaffe?

THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX. THIS NEVER HAPPENS.
Of course it happens. Voter fraud is fairly prevalent. You are just an ignorant fool.
There were about 7 instances since 2000. Cite sources?
3/19/2018 10:36 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
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No. I don’t think so. The economy is booming. He is a very business friendly president. Military spend is up. He is moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

What exactly is harmful about any of this? My ancestors ignored the rise of the Nazis and people turned a blind eye until it was too late. This must not happen again. Europe is overrun.
You seriously just compared nazis to Muslims. Are you ******* kidding me. Why are you so scared of them?
I am not scared whatsoever. What scares me is people like you turning a blind eye. You just said so yourself that EVERY majority Islamic country is a disaster because of the Gov't structure. Why should I not be concerned? The only reason they have not gone mental on the Western world is because they are busy fighting each other. If they ever unite, then we need to be seriously concerned. It is a faith/government in one and that faith is not a peaceful one.

Do you agree that people turned a blind eye to the Nazis until it was too late?
NAZIS ARE NOT MUSLIMD. Nazis are an idology. Islam is a religion. If you cannot distinguish the two than we cannot converse.
You don't think Islam is an ideology? Are you serious? Man you are the dumbest person alive.

Most Muslims claim that “Islam is one” and offers a blueprint for all aspects of life. Islam increasingly occupies a special place in school curricula, and states seek to control what is said in mosques. Catechism-like pamphlets and essays, often in question-and-answer format and popular language, offer believers quick, encapsulated formulations of belief and practice. Religious activists encourage Muslims to be able to explain why they pray and fast. Such organization reflects a conscious systemization of doctrine and practice, so that masses, rather than specialists, are able to formulate and answer questions about faith. The result is empowerment of Muslims and the creation of new patterns of religious authority free from reliance on traditionally educated religious elites. The concern with ideology in Islam stems from the recognition that other ideologies have been applied in social and political contexts. Islamists charge that Islam should play a central role in the social and political arenas, noting that the Islamic ideology upheld in many countries is not a reflection of genuine Islam, but rather principles that secure the interests of the ruling class. The formal ideologies of reformists and Islamists in particular have offered interpretations of Islam that appeal primarily to modern, educated elites, so that urban values have been incorporated into formalized doctrine and practice.

http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/article/opr/t125/e972

3/19/2018 10:36 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Well you guys get voter ID cards in WA we get nothing in MA. I am being 100% frank. When I go to vote, some 90 year old lady asks for my name and street address. She then crosses me off and I go and vote. I could easily say I am Joe Smith from a different street and she would not no the difference. I can then come back and say I am me 3 hours later when a different old lady is at the desk and vote again. The process is broken in MA.

How do you think we should fix this gaffe?

THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX. THIS NEVER HAPPENS.
Of course it happens. Voter fraud is fairly prevalent. You are just an ignorant fool.
There were about 7 instances since 2000. Cite sources?
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/heritage-explains/voter-fraud

You are an idiot. This never gets old.
3/19/2018 10:38 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
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Your defense of Islam is it’s small population in the US. Would you be OK if it grew from 1% to 10%? Btw I am not condemning peaceful Islam only radical Islam but as you see in the world all majority Islamic countries are not exactly preaching liberal values.
That's taints. Mine is that most Islamists are harmless. Ben Shapiro agrees.
Define harmless, even the peaceful ones, most believe:
  1. Men are superior to women aka women are 2nd class citizens
  2. Gays should be killed or at least excommunicated
  3. Apostasy is punishable by death
  4. What happened with Charlie Hedbo was justified
I don't think that that is true, and even if it is, they drop their culture and follow our laws when they get here. Stats don't lie.
Do Republicans not follow the laws that are here? What stats?
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/immigrants-and-crime/486884/
3/19/2018 10:38 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Why is it discriminatory? Judges are people like you and me. I am speaking logically, what is the big deal in showing your id. Is it discriminatory when a police officer pulls you over and asks for a licence and registration? You have to produce an ID for rolling through a stop sign but not for voting? Seems crazy to me.
Because people would make black people do extra steps and block them from getting the ID/voting.
Wait, black people cannot get a drivers license? Do you have proof of this?
25% of them don't.
Where do you find this nonsense?
3/19/2018 10:39 AM
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trickle down economy with massive spending......trying it again under trump........it leads to eventual meltdown......now factor in intentional meltdown of health insurance markets........if we have tarrifs that will be another dagger.
danger.. will robinson...danger!!
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Well you guys get voter ID cards in WA we get nothing in MA. I am being 100% frank. When I go to vote, some 90 year old lady asks for my name and street address. She then crosses me off and I go and vote. I could easily say I am Joe Smith from a different street and she would not no the difference. I can then come back and say I am me 3 hours later when a different old lady is at the desk and vote again. The process is broken in MA.

How do you think we should fix this gaffe?

I don't know, I'm more worried about the gaffe in the constitution allowing normal citizens to own military grade hardware.

The situation you site happens about zero percent of the time. It's next to nothing except a boogeyman on the right. The risks of being caught far outweigh the rewards.
3/19/2018 10:41 AM
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Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 8:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/18/2018 10:47:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/18/2018 10:34:00 PM (view original):
Your defense of Islam is it’s small population in the US. Would you be OK if it grew from 1% to 10%? Btw I am not condemning peaceful Islam only radical Islam but as you see in the world all majority Islamic countries are not exactly preaching liberal values.
That's taints. Mine is that most Islamists are harmless. Ben Shapiro agrees.
Define harmless, even the peaceful ones, most believe:
  1. Men are superior to women aka women are 2nd class citizens
  2. Gays should be killed or at least excommunicated
  3. Apostasy is punishable by death
  4. What happened with Charlie Hedbo was justified
I don't think that that is true, and even if it is, they drop their culture and follow our laws when they get here. Stats don't lie.
Do Republicans not follow the laws that are here? What stats?
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/immigrants-and-crime/486884/
Thats all immigrants. I am not anti immigration. I am a son of immigrants.

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/

3/19/2018 10:41 AM
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there have been numerous studies.....voter fraud is negligible.......so what is the purpose for what the gop is doing......c'mon man !
3/19/2018 10:42 AM
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Posted by The Taint on 3/19/2018 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Well you guys get voter ID cards in WA we get nothing in MA. I am being 100% frank. When I go to vote, some 90 year old lady asks for my name and street address. She then crosses me off and I go and vote. I could easily say I am Joe Smith from a different street and she would not no the difference. I can then come back and say I am me 3 hours later when a different old lady is at the desk and vote again. The process is broken in MA.

How do you think we should fix this gaffe?

I don't know, I'm more worried about the gaffe in the constitution allowing normal citizens to own military grade hardware.

The situation you site happens about zero percent of the time. It's next to nothing except a boogeyman on the right. The risks of being caught far outweigh the rewards.
I am with you on the weapons issue. I still think we should show IDs. I think its crazy that they take my word for who I am and where I live. Especially for local elections where one vote or two could swing it.
3/19/2018 10:43 AM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Why is it discriminatory? Judges are people like you and me. I am speaking logically, what is the big deal in showing your id. Is it discriminatory when a police officer pulls you over and asks for a licence and registration? You have to produce an ID for rolling through a stop sign but not for voting? Seems crazy to me.
Because people would make black people do extra steps and block them from getting the ID/voting.
Wait, black people cannot get a drivers license? Do you have proof of this?
It doesn't matter. You cannot make someone use a document that costs money as a requirement to vote.


If you want a good example of what is going on, just follow along with the people of Kansas versus Kobach going on right now.
3/19/2018 10:43 AM
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Posted by dino27 on 3/19/2018 10:42:00 AM (view original):
there have been numerous studies.....voter fraud is negligible.......so what is the purpose for what the gop is doing......c'mon man !
I think people should have to show ID. There should be ZERO fraud.
3/19/2018 10:43 AM
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Posted by The Taint on 3/19/2018 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/19/2018 10:28:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/19/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):
Why is it discriminatory? Judges are people like you and me. I am speaking logically, what is the big deal in showing your id. Is it discriminatory when a police officer pulls you over and asks for a licence and registration? You have to produce an ID for rolling through a stop sign but not for voting? Seems crazy to me.
Because people would make black people do extra steps and block them from getting the ID/voting.
Wait, black people cannot get a drivers license? Do you have proof of this?
It doesn't matter. You cannot make someone use a document that costs money as a requirement to vote.


If you want a good example of what is going on, just follow along with the people of Kansas versus Kobach going on right now.
I get it. So how is this fixable?
3/19/2018 10:44 AM
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