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Posted by raucous on 11/11/2014 6:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 11/11/2014 3:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/11/2014 2:47:00 PM (view original):
Funny how time softens the memory.

I also remember the GOP hating Clinton.
my point is the republicans were no easier on clinton than they are on obama. yet clinton can pass bills with heavy republican support. taxpayer relief act - 225 house republicans voted for it - all 50 republican senators did as well. graham-leach-bliley - 207 house republicans voted for it - 52 of 53 republican senators did as well. huge republican support for the defense of marriage act, personal responsibilty act, health insurance portability act, and the list goes on and on and on

When the Repubs took Congress in 1994, Clinton got it.  He worked with them to get things done.

When the Democrats took Congress in 2007, Dumbass II got it.  He worked with them to get things done.

When the Repubs took Congress in 2014, Obama doesn't seem to get it.  He is even dumber than Dumbass II.

It's been a week. Let's see what happens.
11/11/2014 6:27 PM
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LOL.

Lame duck president, with no more elections to deal with, is now going to suddenly have incentive to do something he's had zero inclination to do over the first six years of his administration, i.e. try to work with the other side of the aisle.

How do you make this **** up?
11/11/2014 6:57 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 11/11/2014 6:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by raucous on 11/11/2014 6:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 11/11/2014 3:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/11/2014 2:47:00 PM (view original):
Funny how time softens the memory.

I also remember the GOP hating Clinton.
my point is the republicans were no easier on clinton than they are on obama. yet clinton can pass bills with heavy republican support. taxpayer relief act - 225 house republicans voted for it - all 50 republican senators did as well. graham-leach-bliley - 207 house republicans voted for it - 52 of 53 republican senators did as well. huge republican support for the defense of marriage act, personal responsibilty act, health insurance portability act, and the list goes on and on and on

When the Repubs took Congress in 1994, Clinton got it.  He worked with them to get things done.

When the Democrats took Congress in 2007, Dumbass II got it.  He worked with them to get things done.

When the Repubs took Congress in 2014, Obama doesn't seem to get it.  He is even dumber than Dumbass II.

It's been a week. Let's see what happens.
I'm going to make a prediction.... nothing happens. the republicans will bombard the guy with bills that are popular with most people (especially conservatives) and force obama to veto them all and that's ok because it only helps the republicans get the senate, house, and presidency in 2016. at this point there is no need for the republicans to cave to Obama and the only one to blame for this is Obama himself. Even dems are seperating themselves for 2016. Obama made his bed now he has to lie in it
11/11/2014 9:11 PM
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Yes, this guy, "Congress will pass some bills I cannot sign. I'm pretty sure I will take some actions that some in Congress will not like", is going to be the Great Uniter. 

11/11/2014 9:17 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 11/11/2014 2:47:00 PM (view original):
Funny how time softens the memory.

I also remember the GOP hating Clinton.
  We still hate that draft dodging, lying, pedophile, Communists traitor. 
11/11/2014 10:20 PM
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...but he was far better than Obama.
11/11/2014 10:46 PM
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  Obama never raped anybody or sold nuke tech or rocket science.  Obama didn't give N Korea the nuke or sell us out to China for some re-election money. Obama never had Osama Bin Laden handed over to him on a silver platter and refuse it.  Obama didn't cause 9-11.  Obama is not the reason the towers fell.  

  He still sucks though.

  Which one sucks worse is a matter for debate and history.
11/11/2014 11:04 PM
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Posted by DougOut on 11/11/2014 11:04:00 PM (view original):
  Obama never raped anybody or sold nuke tech or rocket science.  Obama didn't give N Korea the nuke or sell us out to China for some re-election money. Obama never had Osama Bin Laden handed over to him on a silver platter and refuse it.  Obama didn't cause 9-11.  Obama is not the reason the towers fell.  

  He still sucks though.

  Which one sucks worse is a matter for debate and history.
No debate. Obama.
11/12/2014 8:16 AM
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Yeah, claims of rape 20 years after the fact smell a little bad to me.   Did Clinton like to play hide the sausage?  Sure.   Does it really take 20 years to go public?  Maybe, if you're after a paycheck.

11/12/2014 9:16 AM
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Too funny.... Elitist dems describing their voting base as stupid. With both houses now the republicans can investigate whatever they want (benghazi, IRS, etc) plus with the supreme court taking up the legality of obamacare subsidies, its getting interesting. Fun. Fun. Fun.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/12/hearings-floated-as-hill-republicans-seize-on-gruber-obamacare-comments/
11/12/2014 12:44 PM
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Pipeline vote next Tuesday.  Called for by a Dem Senator facing a run-off election.    Obama unhappy.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest, traveling with President Obama in Burma, told reporters that the president takes a "dim view" of legislative efforts to force action on the project. Earnest stopped short of threatening a veto, but reiterated Obama's preference for evaluating the pipeline through a long-stalled State Department review. Obama has repeatedly ordered such reviews under pressure from environmental groups, who say the project would contribute to climate change. 

11/13/2014 8:21 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/13/2014 8:21:00 AM (view original):
Pipeline vote next Tuesday.  Called for by a Dem Senator facing a run-off election.    Obama unhappy.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest, traveling with President Obama in Burma, told reporters that the president takes a "dim view" of legislative efforts to force action on the project. Earnest stopped short of threatening a veto, but reiterated Obama's preference for evaluating the pipeline through a long-stalled State Department review. Obama has repeatedly ordered such reviews under pressure from environmental groups, who say the project would contribute to climate change. 

The interesting thing here is we will probably see bipartisan bills getting to Obamas desk. These guys are up for re-election and Obama is not so they will have to side with the Republicans on popular issues like the pipeline, tax reform, and even obamacare.

Now its just up to the Republicans to reach out across the aisle (which they will), find compromise (which they will), and frame the issue the best they can before bills get to the infamous veto pen. If Obama doesn't like it there is no one to blame but himself.
11/13/2014 8:36 AM
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To piggyback....

Look at the support the GOP has to 'lead the way'

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179339/majority-gop-congress-set-nation-course.aspx
11/13/2014 8:48 AM
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I'm not so sure the GOP will be reaching across aisles.   Even as a right-leaner, I recognize that the DC gridlock was caused by more than one party.

That said, if they see political gain from it, of course they will.   That's why the Dem Sen called for a pipeline vote.
11/13/2014 9:07 AM
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What I will find interesting is Obama's response.  My guess is he will counter with an EO on immigration.  

Child in sandbox sort of thing.
11/13/2014 9:09 AM
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