Trump: Worst President Ever? Topic

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
6/9/2017 1:16 PM
The boy scout who took meticulous notes, or the cretin who tells more lies before 9 AM every morning than most of us tell in a lifetime...who to believe?!
6/9/2017 1:18 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Is it illegal for the president to ask the FBI to drop an investigation?

You're confusing 'not cool' with 'criminal'.
6/9/2017 1:19 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Precisely.... It's he said, he said just like MikeT has been telling you for 20 pages now.

He said he said mean there's ZERO evidence of any wrongdoing.
6/9/2017 1:22 PM
Posted by moy23 on 6/9/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Is it illegal for the president to ask the FBI to drop an investigation?

You're confusing 'not cool' with 'criminal'.
In the abstract, it isn't illegal for the President to ask the FBI to drop an investigation. It could rise to the level of obstruction if the investigation is related to the President and there is a pattern of attempts to obstruct--asking Comey for loyalty, asking Comey to drop the investigation, firing Comey for not dropping the investigation, asking Coates and Rogers to intervene in the investigation.
6/9/2017 1:23 PM
And we now know that Trump is being personally investigated for obstruction by the special counsel.
6/9/2017 1:24 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
Yay!!! Comey is more believable!!!

What does that get you?
6/9/2017 1:25 PM
Posted by moy23 on 6/9/2017 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
Yay!!! Comey is more believable!!!

What does that get you?
Well, you say it's he said/he said and one "he" is much more credible. So I think that gets most people believing the credible "he" as opposed to the orange "he."
6/9/2017 1:29 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:24:00 PM (view original):
And we now know that Trump is being personally investigated for obstruction by the special counsel.
Ha ha. Comey had to get permission from Mueller to testify yesterday... If Trump was SERIOUSLY under investigation for obstruction Mueller would have never put his star witness on the stand.

BL... You're grasping at straws here.
6/9/2017 1:31 PM
Breaking:

Senator Reed of Senate Intel Committee says Trump will be deposed under oath by special counsel related to obstruction of justice investigation.
6/9/2017 1:34 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
LOL.

You just got out of prison for murder. We stumble upon a dead body. Police arrive. I say "He did it."

Guess you're going back to jail, right?
6/9/2017 1:36 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:29:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
Yay!!! Comey is more believable!!!

What does that get you?
Well, you say it's he said/he said and one "he" is much more credible. So I think that gets most people believing the credible "he" as opposed to the orange "he."
OMG!!! YOU MEAN TRUMP IS A LIAR!?!?!

oh wait... That's not a revelation, is it?

Still no evidence.

6/9/2017 1:38 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Expanding on this, there's a reason Trump made sure to completely clear the room. That wasn't an accident. He knew what he was doing. So did Comey.
Sure he did. And that's why there's nothing here. Trump said/Comey said, nothing to prove either of them is lying. Oh, other than the fired guy's notes.

Pretty solid evidence there, eh?
The reputations of each "he" certainly adds credibility to one side. The fact that one was willing to testify under oath adds more credibility. The fact that other people will be able to corroborate that the room was cleared and that the meeting happened will add credibility.

This isn't exactly a tough call when it comes down to who to believe.
LOL.

You just got out of prison for murder. We stumble upon a dead body. Police arrive. I say "He did it."

Guess you're going back to jail, right?
Let me fix your analogy so it lines up a little better, because in your example, it's likely that neither of us actually killed the guy. In the Trump/Comey scenario, one person has to be lying.

There's three of us in a locked jail cell. One is me, recently arrested for murder. You're number 2, in for embezzlement, and number 3 is a dead body. Who's the real suspect here?

6/9/2017 1:40 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Breaking:

Senator Reed of Senate Intel Committee says Trump will be deposed under oath by special counsel related to obstruction of justice investigation.
this.

Is Trump going to lie under oath???
6/9/2017 1:40 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:23:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 6/9/2017 1:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 6/9/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/9/2017 12:38:00 PM (view original):
Comey said Trump said "I hope you can let this go." I hope for a lot of ****. Regardless of how Fragile Comey felt, it was not a directive. Without a directive, there's no obstruction.
You can hope for stuff all you want, you aren't the President. Directions can be conveyed by people in power even if the words they use are benign.
Is it illegal for the president to ask the FBI to drop an investigation?

You're confusing 'not cool' with 'criminal'.
In the abstract, it isn't illegal for the President to ask the FBI to drop an investigation. It could rise to the level of obstruction if the investigation is related to the President and there is a pattern of attempts to obstruct--asking Comey for loyalty, asking Comey to drop the investigation, firing Comey for not dropping the investigation, asking Coates and Rogers to intervene in the investigation.
So yes.... The president is allowed by law to ask the FBI to drop an investigation.

Thank you.
6/9/2017 1:42 PM
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