(1) Why should front court defenses be worse now?

There are issues with the nba sim currently (substitution patterns, Bill Russell's defensive ratings, the usage tiers, etc), but I don't think TOV and FG% are a significant problem at the moment.

On a related note:

Are we to assume that individual possession penalty is based on points per game as well as usage%?

A 25% usage player can have, for example, 30ppg or just 15ppg.  Would the latter suffer a greater penalty?

Posted by ncmusician_7 on 6/8/2011 12:57:00 PM (view original):
(1) Why should front court defenses be worse now?

There are issues with the nba sim currently (substitution patterns, Bill Russell's defensive ratings, the usage tiers, etc), but I don't think TOV and FG% are a significant problem at the moment.

because of the recent changes relating defensive rebounding and defense rating.  Many former board lords no longer have average let alone high defensive ratings.

That being said, I don't see why people just wouldn't use Dennis Rodman at the 4 anyway...


TOV are a huge problem.  They are using a stat (tov%) to determine likelihood of turnovers that isn't readily available to players.  You can search for it at BBR... up to a certain point.  Then you have to break out the calculator.  Regardless, this is an important number to keep in mind while building a team, yet they don't provide it.

Posted by badja on 6/8/2011 4:21:00 PM (view original):
On a related note:

Are we to assume that individual possession penalty is based on points per game as well as usage%?

A 25% usage player can have, for example, 30ppg or just 15ppg.  Would the latter suffer a greater penalty?

I wouldn't think ppg would have anything to do with it... but instead, total possessions (as in fga + tov + 0.44*fta).  Either way is terrible.

I'm also switching that 17-11 team to slow down for a few games to see if anything positive occurs.  I have a feeling I'll be putting it back at up tempo quickly, but we'll see what happens.

In the two games since the switch I've retained my rebound dominance, had 15.2% tov% and 10.9% tov%, have seen my shooting dip even further and am 1-1.  Pretty much what I expected to see.

I'm going to leave it for 10 games - and if I'm not seeing an average of 11% tov% or less, I'm calling it a failed experiment.

game 3 15.3% tov%, W

There's something else I've noticed, but haven't researched it thoroughly.  It appears that PG,SG,SF seem to have a greater increase in TOV% than PF and C (possibly because stl% are usually higher with PG,SG,SF).  I also agree that TOV% should be a searchable stat.

the slow down experiment lasted 3 games.  I was still turning the ball over a ton and my shooting percentage dropped.  Not a big enough sample size, I know, but I didn't like the trend...

It's funny.  Seble swore up & down that there's no "catch-up" rigged in the sim, yet MIchael Redd has been playing out of his mind since this thread.  He's down to 11.8% tov% (which means he's playing as close to normal level as possible running up-tempo to bring it down that 1.5%) and has brought his shooting percentages up to right around what he did IRL.  So he should surpass it soon and I'll be happy.  Also, the team has been winning.  Yay.

On a different subject, how close did u ever get to Wilt averaging a triple double?  I'm thinking about giving it a try.

like 13 assists... I'll bump the old thread

 

 

 

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	82	47.7	22.8	5.4	15.7	64.1%	0.0%	34.9%	9.6	4.1	2.1	4.4	2.1
Totals	82	3909	1866	446	1287	870/1358	0/1	126/361	789	338	170	360	175

 

	GP	Min	Pts	OReb	Reb	FG	FG3	FT	AST	TO	STL	BLK	FL
Per Game	82	46.8	24.3	8.1	23.8	59.5%	0%	38.0%	8.6	5.1	2.0	4.9	2.0
Per 48 Min	82	-	24.9	8.3	24.4	59.5%	0%	38.0%	8.8	5.2	2.1	5.0	2.0
Totals	82	3836	1992	663	1952	819/1377	0/0	354/932	702	416	166	402	160

	Usage%	2pt%#	3pt%#	eFG%	OReb%	DReb%	Ast%	Stl%	Blk%
Advanced	20.2	60.1	0.0	59.5	15.4	26.4	18.3	1.5	4.7

 

I might try and give it another go.  Let me know if you decide to try so I can keep up with it.

This is with me running uptempo and opp running half in regulation.  Am I get penalized for good rebounding which gives me too many possessions?  13 more to's than the opp.

PLAYER	MIN	FGM/FGA	3PM/3PA	FTM/FTA	OREB	REB	AST	BLK	STL	TO	PF	TP
96-97 Karl Malone*	42	14/25	0/0	4/4	6	24	9	0	2	6	2	32
69-70 Walt Frazier*	37	9/16	2/4	7/7	0	5	7	2	1	5	1	27
88-89 Ron Harper*	36	5/12	1/3	2/2	1	6	3	0	4	2	1	13
06-07 Tyson Chandler*	33	3/11	0/0	1/2	4	9	0	1	0	6	6	7
73-74 Charlie Edge*	24	5/12	0/0	2/3	3	5	1	1	0	0	1	12
10-11 Andrew Bynum	20	3/6	0/0	0/0	3	5	1	3	0	2	3	6
07-08 J.R. Smith	18	4/8	1/1	1/1	0	1	1	0	0	4	1	10
90-91 Jim Les	15	2/4	1/3	0/1	0	1	3	0	0	0	1	5
88-89 Corey Gaines	5	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	4	0	2	0	1	0
94-95 Ivano Newbill	5	0/0	0/0	0/0	1	3	0	0	1	1	0	0
07-08 Trenton Hassell	4	0/0	0/0	0/0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
98-99 Will Perdue	1	0/0	0/0	0/0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS		45/94	5/11	17/20	19	60	29	7	10	26	17	112
		47.9%	45.5%	85.0%

I don't think that is the issue.  I think it's more the inconsistency of the sim.  How has the team been doing during the year.

I think there were some quiet recent tweaks that are impacting treys, usage. tos etc - or small sample size possibly (in which case give me my f-ing money back)

Posted by ashamael on 6/22/2011 6:28:00 PM (view original):
I don't think that is the issue.  I think it's more the inconsistency of the sim.  How has the team been doing during the year.

We did well.  I tried to paste the team stats but couldn't.  Averaged 20 to's a game though.  From now on I'm going to be checking points per 36 as well as usage. 
I also want to check the posessions and to's as compared to RL numbers.