Basketball is pretty much dead, just like football and hockey on this site. But baseball is still very much alive.

Basketball is far from dead on this site - but it is a fair amount quieter and slower than it was two years ago.

Basketball on this site is about as dead as Al Davis. Not technically or clinically dead, but everything about it indicates that death is on the doorstep.

Quote: Originally Posted By ashamael on 2/12/2010Show me. In an OL. A theme league, even with the same rules, won't attract the same group of owners

There's no motivation for me to play an OL. The owners a theme league would (or wouldn't) attract won't matter. While we're at it, we can make a bet on this if u want.

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I'm gonna start another thread in the classifieds but since we have more then a dozen reg posters on the issue of the SIM sucking and cookie cutter squads sucking how bout this idea for a theme league.

Instead of blacklisting the usual suspects and needing 24 guys, how bout 2 teams per 12 owners, 1 in each conference. 1 squad straight cookie cutter squad. Moses, worm, peja, allen nash etc etc, whomever you want. The other squad you build is anti cookie cutter. Whats anti? The 24 players that the 12 of us blacklist from the anti-cookie squads. Each of the 4 divisions gets 3 cookie cutters and 3 anti CC, so they can battle it out inside each division!. With only needing 12 owners this should be a breeze to fill right?

Quote: Originally posted by hurley711 on 2/13/2010I'm gonna start another thread in the classifieds but since we have more then a dozen reg posters on the issue of the SIM sucking and cookie cutter squads sucking how bout this idea for a theme league. Instead of blacklisting the usual suspects and needing 24 guys, how bout 2 teams per 12 owners, 1 in each conference. 1 squad straight cookie cutter squad. Moses, worm, peja, allen nash etc etc, whomever you want. The other squad you build is anti cookie cutter. Whats anti? The 24 players that the 12 of us blacklist from the anti-cookie squads. Each of the 4 divisions gets 3 cookie cutters and 3 anti CC, so they can battle it out inside each division!. With only needing 12 owners this should be a breeze to fill right?

they speak english on what???

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The issue for me, hurley, is that I won't spend $10 on a team that is the cookie. I like your line of thought, however.

Quote: Originally Posted By ashamael on 2/13/2010The issue for me, hurley, is that I won't spend $10 on a team that is the cookie. I like your line of thought, however

Some advice (wanted or not) but Ash your expertise are much better served in ODL team analysis. Reason being there is things to be learned in that forum.

Quote: Originally Posted By ashamael on 2/13/2010The issue for me, hurley, is that I won't spend $10 on a team that is the cookie. I like your line of thought, however

ash i hear ya but is it that bad if we are all in the same boat? Everyone is gonna have 1 of each , let's see if our anti cookie cutters can win the league

the anti-cookies pretty much already own the cookies. It's the teams built to beat the anti-cookies that are ridiculous.

edit: lol Sappy =p

when i first started playing it seemed the cookie teams(nash allen peja rodman moses...maybe a slight variation of that) were over used and the ones most frequently winning

now i see a whole variety of dominant teams...they may have some cookie guys on them but are still different...look at airstilts nash-wilt-detlef teams....they do better then the cookie teams ever did

the only comman theme is great rebounding+3pt shooting...you usually gotta have it in open leagues to win

if you can accept that fact then i dont see what all the fuss is...there is a ton of different combos that can be successful...people need to stop complaining and accept the challenge

nc...you should absolutely attempt to win an open league with less then 500 3pts...its unlikely but i believe it could be possible...and if anyone can do it its probably you

The thing with the threes is that you can beat (and even dominate) your opponent in possessions, fouls and fg% but lose because you hit 4 or 5 threes and he hit 15 or 20. And well built teams have enough paint scoring to keep you from going +3 against them. That's (one of) the big weaknesses with the most common cookie: Moses ain't enough paint scoring by himself to keep you from loading up against the 3-point assault. If you go -3, you get owned and in foul trouble. If you keep it normal, you get into all kinds of foul trouble (which is atrocious as Moses is the only one that really gets to the line a lot, yet in this sim, nash, peja and allen all go a ton). And if you go +3, all of them have high enough efg% to still beat you, but in a 7-game series, it's usually enough.

That's why you see the cookie win 55+ games and then go down in the 2nd round or conference finals.

i think darkangel777 found the new cookie to beat....barros pierce mcgrady rodman moses....wow...lotta firepower right there....more boards and ftas too

i posted this in hurley's classified section, but this seems to be a better forum to talk about this issue

COOKIE COOKIE CRUMBLER open league team: 59-23
pg - nash pg - mookie blaylock won the champ. 14 cookie
sg - rice (?) sg - clyde drexler cutters in that league. was
sf - bird (?) sf - tracy mcgrady boring. no one spoke. robots
pf - rodman pf - carlos boozer in a dead world. didn't even
c - moses c - bill russell get one congrats. lol.

seemed they had trouble stopping boozer. the games i lost were the games rodman had an impact on him (i think). mookie pretty much matched nash's 3's and didn't really slow him down much... but nash never went off. mcgrady shot just under 50% and drexler excelled against weaker sg's. every moses, or wilt outplayed russell, but big bill got his boards, blocks and dimes.