The 'Joe Morgan plays 2nd' didn't go too well either.

To answer your question, his walks normalize poorly. What is equally as poor, is the draft center's way of showing how walks might normalize. Its pretty rare to see a player's real life BB/9 differ from his BB/9# by more than a hundredth of a walk.
I looked at B-R.com and the walk rate that year was 3.1, which is almost as high as modern ball. It doesn't normalize too horribly, but going from a 2.12/9 to 3.75/9 in the performance history for 80mil, doesn't seem far fetched. The p.h. also shows him having an average ERA of 3.4, which for $36,000/IP is about right. Not a big bargain, but not a broken player either.

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Interesting. I almost never put my IBB setting higher than 1.

Quote: Originally posted by llamanunts on 9/21/2009Interesting. I almost never put my IBB setting higher than 1.

Maybe the problem is that people who are only smart enough to use cookies are also not smart enough to change their IBB setting!

I use my share of cookies. I wouldn't consider Haid a cookie anymore, what with the 4 BB/9 you can expect. I have him now in a Setup B role and he's walking the ballpark. 5 BB/9 now, 70 games in.

Just finished the regular season in an $80m OL and had Hal as my closer for the team. Finished in first place and am now starting the world series.

His line for me playing home games at Great American Ball Park:

56 games, 45.67 IP
2.17 ERA, .247 OAV, 1.36 WHIP
4.14 k/9, 3.94 BB/9 (league average was 3.4 bb/9)

He was 35 -40 in save attempts and didn't give up a homer in an HR friendly park. For $1.8mm I still consider him a good value

Quote: Originally Posted By grizzly_one on 9/23/2009... Anybody over 2.00 BB/9 is a potential disaster

There was a thread in this forum several months ago that showed a chart with the RL BB/9 and the expected WIS BB/9. It was something like: at 1.5 RL BB/9, the exp BB/9 was 1.75-2.0, at 2.0 RL BB/9, the exp BB/9 was 2.5-2.75, and so forth (assuming all batters were average OBP and at $80M cap). The conclusion was the higher the RL BB/9, the greater the difference between the RL and exp WIS BB/9.

I usually draft teams (at $80m) with pitchers in the 3.5-4 BB/9 range. They usually finish with BB/9 around 4.5-6... completely expected at that cap for me...

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The Eck threads are all tiny sample size phenomena.

Edit: Yeah, he's got a 2.11 BB/9 in the PH. Pretty high compared to what you might expect, but nothing like the complaints in those threads would lead you to believe.

I used Haid a number of times and the walk rate per nine was above 5. I agree that the walk rate was high but I guess you live with it. I used other guys in the bullpen too though. That is why you can never have enough pitchers.

Fair enough. He may be.

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