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Quote: Originally posted by Trentonjoe on 6/15/2009The only thing I can think that two have in common is that they're PC is more than 30.   Maybe if you throw a bunch of pitches you get itred for the next game.

that's what i'm thinking the deal is. i bet those guys are on pace for more than 50% of their pitch total. probably closer to 80%.

80% is about right

I've definitely had guys on pace for more than 50% (but maybe less than 80%) of their RL pitches go back to back and still be at 100% for the third game. So I don't think your theory quite holds up. I'm sure there's a relatively complicated equation governing it involving how many pitches the guy has thrown on the season, in the previous game, in the previous several games, etc.

SP used in relief fatigue slightly faster than when used as starters. I've noticed this and I remember a comment from Admin awhile back about an update where SP used in relief throwing 75 pitches would fatigue as if he threw 100 pitches. not much impact when throwing a small number of pitches.

Quote: Originally Posted By rbow923 on 6/15/2009SP used in relief fatigue slightly faster than when used as starters. I've noticed this and I remember a comment from Admin awhile back about an update where SP used in relief throwing 75 pitches would fatigue as if he threw 100 pitches. not much impact when throwing a small number of pitches

i don't understand why this would be. doesn't any pitcher have a finite amount of pitches/IP per season, based on actual plus 10%? why would it make any difference whether they are used as starters or in relief?

I sent a ticket in....I am now in the infamous Level 2.

Response to my ticket:

There are several pieces to the pitching fatigue formula and they all interact.

1) Ratio of projected pitches thrown for the season versus actual pitches thrown for the season (with an additional 10% allowance).

2) Projected game usage, capped at 70% of team games.

3) Recent usage, as in did the pitcher just pitch in a game or a sequence of games.

4) The combination of these 3 factors.

What you're seeing with your pitcher is someone who is under both 1 & 2, but when combined with 3 pushes him just a little under 100%.

You can always hover over the player's fatigue indicator in the Manager's Office to get the leading indicator for why the player is fatigued.

sounds good, anxious to know what you find out Trentonjoe. I use starters in relief very frequently and have not ever noticed that they tire more rapidly.

Quote: Originally Posted By boogerlips on 6/17/2009
Response to my ticket:

There are several pieces to the pitching fatigue formula and they all interact.

1) Ratio of projected pitches thrown for the season versus actual pitches thrown for the season (with an additional 10% allowance).

2) Projected game usage, capped at 70% of team games.

3) Recent usage, as in did the pitcher just pitch in a game or a sequence of games.

4) The combination of these 3 factors.

What you're seeing with your pitcher is someone who is under both 1 & 2, but when combined with 3 pushes him just a little under 100%.

You can always hover over the player's fatigue indicator in the Manager's Office to get the leading indicator for why the player is fatigued.

it is my experience that if you are significantly under number 1 there, it tends to negate 3.

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