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tecwrg
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CT State police definitely confirmed that the AW was the primary weapon used.
1/24/2013 10:13 AM
MikeT23
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Then "over 100" doesn't work without additional magazines.    Has the CT state police confirmed that?
1/24/2013 11:15 AM
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From Huffington Post:

"He had multiple, high-capacity clips each capable of holding 30 bullets..."
1/24/2013 11:36 AM
tecwrg
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If you don't like the Huffington Post, here's one from the NY Times from two days after the shooting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/nyregion/sandy-hook-school-shooting-in-newtown.html?_r=0

"While Lieutenant Vance said he did not yet know how many bullets had been fired, he did say investigators recovered “numerous” empty 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster rifle. The .223-caliber bullet is a small, high-velocity round that has been used by Western military forces for decades, in part because it inflicts devastating wounds.

Some of the bullets fired inside the school, according to a law enforcement official, “penetrated the glass windows of the classrooms and went into vehicles in the parking lot.”

1/24/2013 12:02 PM
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That's fine.  I've never doubted that the Bushmaster was used.   I just hadn't heard of additional magazines found on site.   I'd initially heard a 100 round magazine so that could make sense as 100+18 to 22 is "over 100". 

But that's still the only mass shooting where the majority of the bullets left a HCAW.

1/24/2013 12:09 PM
bad_luck
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So, we should probably outlaw HCAW now, before they can be used again.
1/24/2013 12:16 PM
MikeT23
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I'd probably look at more deadly guns first.   You know, the ones that are used in murders/mass killings most often and kill a lot more people.

I mean, if people were dying from skydiving, you wouldn't ban softball, would you?
1/24/2013 12:29 PM
bad_luck
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How often a gun is used illegally isn't the only consideration. Or are you only able to process one variable at a time?
1/24/2013 12:36 PM
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Of course it isn't.   The point being, if your goal is to prevent murders/mass shootings, you should probably look at the weapon of choice in murders/mass shootings.    Hell, you may as well say "I want to prevent murders/mass shootings.  Ban rotary phones!!!"    I'd respond "Uh, badluck, virtually no one uses a rotary phone to kill anyone."   Your obvious reply would have to be "Yeah but banning handguns isn't practical so we have to start somewhere!!!"

Which, as you know, is dumb.
1/24/2013 1:30 PM
bad_luck
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The goal is to make an incremental improvement to public safety by removing guns that are effective at killing people but that don't have any other practical use.


1/24/2013 1:39 PM
MikeT23
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Like handguns?
1/24/2013 1:42 PM
bad_luck
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Handguns have a practical use.

1/24/2013 2:04 PM
MikeT23
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Other than killing people?  Because, if you like to check mass shootings and murders, you'll find they're really effective at that practical use.
1/24/2013 3:25 PM
bad_luck
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They are. Do you think we should ban handguns?
1/24/2013 3:38 PM
MikeT23
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I think I've been pretty clear about what I think in both this thread and tec's "OMG!!!!  WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN???" thread.

In fact, I'd say I make more sense than anyone regarding firearms of all types.

Unfortunately, your singular focus on the seldom used for murder/mass shooting HCAW prevents you from seeing that.

Answer this.   When mad cow disease was a concern, did you stop eating fish?
1/24/2013 3:48 PM
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