2016 Presidential Race Topic

TRUMP HAS WORKED WITH AND GOT DEALS DONE WITH AN ECLECTIC GROUP OF NYC MAYORS( LARGE EGOS TOO) BEAME, KOCH, DINKINS, GUILIANI, BLOOMBERG. DEBLASIO.

I WORKED ON A TRUMP PROJECT(FERRY POINT GOLF COURSE, BRONX, NY. LOOK IT UP) HE TOOK IT OVER WHEN IT WAS 80 MILLION OVER BUDGET AND 4 YEARS OVERDUE AND GOT IT DONE. AND I'M NOT A TRUMP "FAN", BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT
2/21/2016 12:31 PM
^yep
Also Trump has created 35,000 jobs... How many jobs have Cruz or Rubio created?
2/21/2016 1:26 PM
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 9:21:00 AM (view original):
So I took a couple of those "Which candidate aligns with your belief" polls this morning. Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Clinton, Sanders on both. None were over 50% which isn't surprising as the Repubs will lose me on "religious" issues and the Dems have zero chance on economic issues. Problem is that Trump and Cruz are so unlikable that I just can't envision voting for them. Looks like I'm a Rubio supporter and will attend his next gay foam party.

Or, maybe, I'll be a conscientious objector and not vote.
Rubio is pretty much Obama. No experience yet thinks he's ready for the iron throne. Has Rubio ever made an executive decision? Actually he aligns quite well with your last statement... Rubio is going to take his ball and go home when he loses. He's already said he's done with public service if he doesn't get the job. Sounds like your no vote when Trump wins.
Care to expound on the vast political experience Trump has?
Executive decisions? Trump built a $10 billion dollar business.
Political experience? Trump has worked with pretty much anyone who is anyone in Washington over the last 30 years. They all owe him favors. Isn't that how politics work?
Did he build the business? Or did his daddy give him $200 million?
2/21/2016 2:31 PM
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 9:21:00 AM (view original):
So I took a couple of those "Which candidate aligns with your belief" polls this morning. Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Clinton, Sanders on both. None were over 50% which isn't surprising as the Repubs will lose me on "religious" issues and the Dems have zero chance on economic issues. Problem is that Trump and Cruz are so unlikable that I just can't envision voting for them. Looks like I'm a Rubio supporter and will attend his next gay foam party.

Or, maybe, I'll be a conscientious objector and not vote.
Rubio is pretty much Obama. No experience yet thinks he's ready for the iron throne. Has Rubio ever made an executive decision? Actually he aligns quite well with your last statement... Rubio is going to take his ball and go home when he loses. He's already said he's done with public service if he doesn't get the job. Sounds like your no vote when Trump wins.
Care to expound on the vast political experience Trump has?
Executive decisions? Trump built a $10 billion dollar business.
Political experience? Trump has worked with pretty much anyone who is anyone in Washington over the last 30 years. They all owe him favors. Isn't that how politics work?
He's had a few failures. How can you be sure he won't have them as a President?

Not exactly. In fact, Trump has the potential to make Obama look reasonable when working with the other party. "That Senator from Iowa, I don't know his name, is fat and stupid!" How do you think that will work out?
2/21/2016 3:02 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 2/21/2016 2:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 9:21:00 AM (view original):
So I took a couple of those "Which candidate aligns with your belief" polls this morning. Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Clinton, Sanders on both. None were over 50% which isn't surprising as the Repubs will lose me on "religious" issues and the Dems have zero chance on economic issues. Problem is that Trump and Cruz are so unlikable that I just can't envision voting for them. Looks like I'm a Rubio supporter and will attend his next gay foam party.

Or, maybe, I'll be a conscientious objector and not vote.
Rubio is pretty much Obama. No experience yet thinks he's ready for the iron throne. Has Rubio ever made an executive decision? Actually he aligns quite well with your last statement... Rubio is going to take his ball and go home when he loses. He's already said he's done with public service if he doesn't get the job. Sounds like your no vote when Trump wins.
Care to expound on the vast political experience Trump has?
Executive decisions? Trump built a $10 billion dollar business.
Political experience? Trump has worked with pretty much anyone who is anyone in Washington over the last 30 years. They all owe him favors. Isn't that how politics work?
Did he build the business? Or did his daddy give him $200 million?
I didn't say he started the business. He took that two hundred million dollars and turn it into a 10 billion dollar business, I certainly think he's done a fantastic job of building the Trump brand to what it is today.
2/21/2016 3:13 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/21/2016 10:25:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 9:21:00 AM (view original):
So I took a couple of those "Which candidate aligns with your belief" polls this morning. Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Clinton, Sanders on both. None were over 50% which isn't surprising as the Repubs will lose me on "religious" issues and the Dems have zero chance on economic issues. Problem is that Trump and Cruz are so unlikable that I just can't envision voting for them. Looks like I'm a Rubio supporter and will attend his next gay foam party.

Or, maybe, I'll be a conscientious objector and not vote.
Rubio is pretty much Obama. No experience yet thinks he's ready for the iron throne. Has Rubio ever made an executive decision? Actually he aligns quite well with your last statement... Rubio is going to take his ball and go home when he loses. He's already said he's done with public service if he doesn't get the job. Sounds like your no vote when Trump wins.
Care to expound on the vast political experience Trump has?
Executive decisions? Trump built a $10 billion dollar business.
Political experience? Trump has worked with pretty much anyone who is anyone in Washington over the last 30 years. They all owe him favors. Isn't that how politics work?
He's had a few failures. How can you be sure he won't have them as a President?

Not exactly. In fact, Trump has the potential to make Obama look reasonable when working with the other party. "That Senator from Iowa, I don't know his name, is fat and stupid!" How do you think that will work out?
Warren Buffett had an energy company go bankrupt for 1 billion dollars, does that make him a bad businessman or a bad investor? Pointing out one failure that a risk taker, ie an entreprenuer, makes instead of the 200 + successes is really grabbing at straws. Can you really be sure that anyone that wins a presidency is not going to make any mistakes? I think that's an unrealistic benchmark.
Whereas Obama can't get a single person from the opposition party on board for any of his deals, Trump has a track record of getting opposing parties on board for many of his deals, Democrats, Republicans, Labor Unions, etc. I'll take the risk with Donald Trumps track record, even if it includes name calling over Rubio or Cruz's track record of doing nothing to bridge the left and right to get things done. Other than 1 event, the gang of eight, has either of these two done anything to show they can negotiate with other politicians?
2/21/2016 3:25 PM
You're the one who pointed to his business acumen as a qualification to be President. I simply pointed out that it hasn't been all candy and roses for him.

A "deal' is far different than legislation. I'm pretty sure everyone saw some benefit of any deal made with Trump. If not, they're very stupid. That's the whole point of a business arrangement. That is not politics.

Just admit that Trump has no political experience, less than Obama in '08 and less than Rubio now, and move on to another topic.
2/21/2016 3:37 PM
2/21/2016 3:40 PM
Political experience is highly overrated especially as president...You do not need experience if you have the right minds around you and you are willing to listen to their input, tips, ideas, and cautions. The president has to put a good team together regardless of experience or he/she can not thrive. The president honestly is more or less a face. Do you really think more "experience" would of changed anything for Obama? I don't... He is who he is and does what he does. Experience helps only if you have inexperience all around you. Experience of the administration as a whole is what is important
2/21/2016 6:16 PM (edited)
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2016 3:37:00 PM (view original):
You're the one who pointed to his business acumen as a qualification to be President. I simply pointed out that it hasn't been all candy and roses for him.

A "deal' is far different than legislation. I'm pretty sure everyone saw some benefit of any deal made with Trump. If not, they're very stupid. That's the whole point of a business arrangement. That is not politics.

Just admit that Trump has no political experience, less than Obama in '08 and less than Rubio now, and move on to another topic.
Can't name many businesmen with a candy and roses track record.... But there's 30 years of a business track record for Trump in a tough real estate industry and it's been by in large very successful. No doubt.
Politicians are deal makers.... That's why business lobbyists head to DC to 'deal' with politicians.
I agree with your 3rd point... I mentioned that Rubio and Cruz have never made 'executive decisions'. You brought up 'political experience'. Rubio and Cruz have as much political experience as Obama which is nil to none which is the equivalent of Trump buying these guys off for 30 years.
2/21/2016 7:00 PM

AP Poll: 86% of Republicans Think Donald Trump Can Win General Election

2/21/2016 9:06 PM
Trump really is a **** business man...he used other people's money and bankrupted 3 or 4 times....oh and he single handedly destroyed the USFL in like a year
2/21/2016 9:46 PM
Trump airlines!
2/21/2016 9:59 PM
Whoopwhooooop!
2/21/2016 10:36 PM
TRUMP VODKA!

"IT WILL BE BIGGER THAN GREY GOOSE. EVERYBODY WILL BE DRINKING T+T'S( TRUMP TONIC'S)"
2/22/2016 4:49 AM
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