1 Run Wins and Losses Topic

For all you analyst geeks such as myself. You always hear about teams record in 1 Run games. What is everyones opinion on it, I for one think it really means nothing.

a) If you have a Winning record say 15-3 (like my current team) are they good or just a hair away from being average and have been lucky.

b) If you have a 3-15 record are you that bad or are you just a few breaks away from a few more Wins

This is different than extra innings games that may indicate you have a strong / deep staff to keep you in games until you Win it but if you Win 8-7 in a 9 inning game or 3-2....does it really matter?
1/24/2010 10:11 PM
I look at 1-run games as just a measure of luck, in my experience, subtracting 1-run games from a teams record the W% is very close to the pythagorean W% for the same team...
1/24/2010 10:29 PM
In real life, I'd say it's a measure of an offense's ability to step up and scrape out that extra run, or a pitching staff's ability to bear down and protect that lead at all costs.

Hard to argue for intangibles like that in the SIM though.
1/25/2010 1:03 AM
mostly luck and small sample size but not entirely. the weaker your bullpen the more likely to have a losing record in 1-run games. speed an advantage in 1-run games. I make it a priority to have enough Setup innings and I like to draft a pinch runner.
1/25/2010 1:33 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By rbow923 on 1/25/2010
mostly luck and small sample size but not entirely. the weaker your bullpen the more likely to have a losing record in 1-run games. speed an advantage in 1-run games. I make it a priority to have enough Setup innings and I like to draft a pinch runner.

My experiences are the same. Speed and a good bull-pen are keys to 1-run victories.
1/25/2010 1:39 AM
Bill James has many times said the W-L record in 1-run games is mostly luck.

A team's W-L record in 1 run games has a very small correlation to overall W-L record. But a team's record in 3+ run games has a very strong correlation to overall record.

1/25/2010 10:43 AM
Here's one division from one of my leagues...

WestW-LPCTGBDivision1-Run
Games
Extra
Inning
RSRAExp.
Pct.
OwnerLIVE
Lucky to win 6088-740.543-25-1719-265-88717230.588jetscanes
Unbalanced 6085-770.525322-2023-283-107757580.511ballantine
Highly Unbalanced76-860.4691218-2421-258-17908520.464mpitt76
Tainted Disaster67-950.4142119-2327-288-45116390.404The Taint
1/25/2010 10:46 AM
Yes, there are certain things you can try to do to improve your chances at winning close games (speed, defense, bullpen), but I'd rather have a good record in blowout games and take my chances at getting lucky at close games, then vice versa.
1/25/2010 10:53 AM
Agreed, mostly luck. If you have a bullpen problem that should be evident without worrying about 1-run W/L.
1/25/2010 12:43 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By schwarze on 1/25/2010
Bill James has many times said the W-L record in 1-run games is mostly luck.

A team's W-L record in 1 run games has a very small correlation to overall W-L record. But a team's record in 3+ run games has a very strong correlation to overall record.



WIS is not real life baseball. Luck is more of a factor is 1-run games than in three-run games. However, I believe most experienced players can agree that certain strategies or tactics are condusive to winning 1-run games.
1/25/2010 2:43 PM
a dominant team should have a winning record in 1-run games too. if they score a lot more than they give up they are statistically more likely to be +1 than -1.
1/25/2010 2:54 PM
CentralW-LPCTGBDivision1-Run
Games
Extra
Inning
RSRAExp.
Pct.
OwnerLIVE
The Big Three97-650.599-28-1421-248-107935610.653schwarze
Silver and the Kings78-840.4811927-1522-3110-116747040.480The Taint
5 - The Chain Gang76-860.4692116-2623-205-107298180.445bigmc
Walsh to Adams54-1080.3334313-2916-214-1185612520.312ballantine
1/25/2010 7:27 PM
Just to quantify... I took the data from the six leagues from the WIS Championship round 2 (144 teams).

I seperated the W-L% in 1-run games vs. the W-L% in all other games for each of the 144 teams. I then ran a regression analysis to test the correlation.

For those who are not math geeks, correlation is the statistical measurement of the relationship between two variables. It can range from -1 to +1. Zero means no correlation.

Anyway, the correlation coefficient between 1-run W-L% to Overall W-L% was 0.55 for these 144 teams - which does show positive correlation. The correlation between 2+ run W-L% to Overall W-L% was 0.95... almost perfect correlation.

The problem with comparing 1-run or 2+ run W-L% to overall W-L% is that the latter stat includes the former stat. So the best way to measure this is to compare the two measure against each other.

The correlation between 1-run W-L% and 2+ run W-L% is 0.29, a slightly positive correlation (but alot closer to zero than to one).

I stand by my earlier comments, 1-run W-L% is mostly due to luck.

1/25/2010 7:57 PM
1 Run Games is a bit of a Problem in this Game. And I'll now tell you why.

I recently was playing a very important game against a fellow Wild Card Contender in my League. In this game, I had started my #3 Starter with a fresh Juan Marical(#1 Starter) due to start the next game. However in the 6th ing the game became tied, and an ideal situation was created to bring in Juan. However this wasn't possible and I lost the game by 1 run.
1/25/2010 10:42 PM
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