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Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
5/15/2012 10:03 AM
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Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
5/15/2012 10:05 AM
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Again, I don't need one.  Lawmakers make laws.   I vote them in.  They win by a majority vote.   They cater to the will of the people.
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/14/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/14/2012 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Not really.  SSM is illegal in some states.   Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
Smoking marijuana is illegal.  Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
mike, I'm surprised you gave up on this logical masterpiece.
5/15/2012 10:07 AM
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Seems to me that a law is passed by lawmakers who understand they need a compelling legal reason.

Does that make sense to you?
5/15/2012 10:07 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Again, I don't need one.  Lawmakers make laws.   I vote them in.  They win by a majority vote.   They cater to the will of the people.
Don't need one or don't have one?

You personally don't have to supply the state of California with one, but without one, Prop 8 will remain overturned.

And since a compelling legal reason doesn't exist...well you know.
5/15/2012 10:08 AM
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Federal law is not a compelling legal reason?

Nearly 20 pages of your argument comes down to that statement?
5/15/2012 10:09 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Seems to me that a law is passed by lawmakers who understand they need a compelling legal reason.

Does that make sense to you?
Oh, ok, The legal reason is obvious then.  Care to enlighten me as to what it is?
5/15/2012 10:09 AM
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/14/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/14/2012 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Not really.  SSM is illegal in some states.   Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
Smoking marijuana is illegal.  Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
mike, I'm surprised you gave up on this logical masterpiece.
Well, the fact that one can smoke pot alone and SSM/incest requires two people consenting to an act seemed to be the difference.   I just didn't think it deserved a response.    But, since you insist, there you have it.
5/15/2012 10:09 AM
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Seems to me that a law is passed by lawmakers who understand they need a compelling legal reason.

Does that make sense to you?
Oh, ok, The legal reason is obvious then.  Care to enlighten me as to what it is?
Again, I don't need one.  Lawmakers make laws.   I vote them in.  They win by a majority vote.   They cater to the will of the people.

Which one of these word(s) is confusing you?
5/15/2012 10:10 AM
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Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Federal law is not a compelling legal reason?

Nearly 20 pages of your argument comes down to that statement?
DOMA doesn't forbid the states from recognizing same sex marriage.
5/15/2012 10:11 AM
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Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg2 on 5/15/2012 10:03:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:00:00 AM (view original):
Do I need one?  I don't make laws.  I vote in people who do.   I assume they'll make laws that the majority of their constituency wants. 
It's fine if you don't have one.

Because there isn't one.
Well, there is DOMA, which is the federal law that defines marriage as the legal union between one man and one woman.
DOMA is a federal  law, not a compelling legal reason for a state to take a right away.

How about this.  FInish this sentence:

Same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed, because if it is...
Federal law is not a compelling legal reason?

Nearly 20 pages of your argument comes down to that statement?
DOMA doesn't forbid the states from recognizing same sex marriage.
Nor does it force them to recognize SSM.

Weird ****, huh?
5/15/2012 10:12 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 5/15/2012 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/15/2012 10:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 5/14/2012 5:04:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 5/14/2012 4:54:00 PM (view original):
Not really.  SSM is illegal in some states.   Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
Smoking marijuana is illegal.  Incest is illegal.  Seems pretty similar.
mike, I'm surprised you gave up on this logical masterpiece.
Well, the fact that one can smoke pot alone and SSM/incest requires two people consenting to an act seemed to be the difference.   I just didn't think it deserved a response.    But, since you insist, there you have it.
What if you smoke pot with someone else?

Same as incest?
5/15/2012 10:12 AM
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