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Posted by bad_luck on 4/5/2016 10:25:00 AM (view original):
So you admit that Trump has no idea what he's talking about?

On some of the specifics, sure. I think he's spot on with his America First world view which includes a border wall, better infrastructure, better trade deals, and enforcing existing law. I also like his backbone, and that he's not politically correct. He'll need both to make necessary changes to Washington-as-usual.

If order to effect change, you typically have to earn the respect of those you want to change.

Trump's "power" in the business world has been derived from fear due to his bullying and strong arm tactics, not from any level of respect.

How do you think that management style would work in DC should he (theoretically) be elected, especially after what would be a year long campaign of divisiveness and controversy?

Better than Ted Cruz and his all or nothing tactics. That's just like Obama.

And Trumps power in the business world is more about leverage and negotiations than bullying and strong arm tactics.

Trumps "leverage" comes from his money and his threats that "you won't get any of it unless you give me what I want".

Do you think he'll be bringing his personal checkbook into negotiations with Congress, or with foreign leaders?

He'll be bringing a bigger checkbook... The US Government. We pay for everything world-wide, time to get something back for all the money we spend. Think America First!!!!

Funny how you should criticize politicians "spending others people's money" when just two days ago you bragged about how your boy will be able to do just that as President.

No no no no no.... Not to spend it.... to LEVERAGE it for better deals. That's how money and negations work. For instance - If my wealthiest client tries to leave me I will do almost anything to keep him. If the client has little to offer me they can go on their merry way. America has a very big checkbook. Lots of leverage... HUGE leverage!!!

I assume you want to retain your wealthiest client because he's one of your better customers in terms of buying goods or services from you.

Trump waving America's checkbook around doesn't give him any leverage unless he's actually writing some checks, i.e. spending America's (i.e. "other people's") money.

What's your point?

If your asking is Trump going to spend America's money the answer is yes. If you are asking whether Trump will use that spending as leverage for better deals that help America the answer is also yes.


For instance - I spend my employers money on my top clients taking them out to dinner or golfing with them... That's one reason they do business with me, of many.... But it's also why we don't have to give away the business by charging the lowest fees or giving out the best rates in the market. Btw I also spend that money at another client's business so I am wisely spending that money to maximize the return. Two clients are happy with me spending the same amount money. Also - if say a restaurant isn't my client anymore I stop spending my money there and go elsewhere. Same goes for printers, promotional items, etc. Sometimes I spend money on potential clients. Leveraging that money to get their business because in the end the money I'm spending is peanuts to the amount my company makes from having their business. See how that works? Using money as leverage.

In Washington they just spend money, good money, after bad ideas - typically to hook up their buddies and the lobbyists. America gets nothing back when politicians spend our money. Nothing. Trump will make great deals for America!

You're truly delusional.

Simple question: what does Donald Trump care more about?

A) America
B) Donald Trump

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Simple question: what does Hillary Clinton care more about?

A) America
B) Hillary Clinton


Simple question: what does Ted Cruz care more about?

A) America
B) Ted Cruz

Moy's 3:57pm post:

Simple question: what does Hillary Clinton care more about?

A) America
B) Hillary Clinton


Simple question: what does Ted Cruz care more about?

A) America
B) Ted Cruz

The answers would be B and B.

Just so you know, so far I'm "none of the above" for this election so far, on both sides. Hillary is the least trustworthy candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime, and I wouldn't trust her for a minute. Bernie Sanders is a flat-out kook with his Socialist ideas. Trump is the biggest ******* we've ever seen run as a serious Presidential candidate. And Cruz is the poster boy for the Tea Party and obstructionism in Washington, which is destroying the Republican Party and has done nothing but damage to Washington with their asinine and childish "our way or we'll shut everything down" philosophy.

It's pretty clear that it's going to be Hillary (most likely) or Sanders (a big longshot) getting the Democratic nomination. I can't vote for either one of them in good conscious. My only hope is that a contested GOP convention results in somebody other than Trump or Cruz as the Republican nominee that I can settle for as a reasonable alternative to Hillary. Otherwise, I'm most likely leaving the Presidential slot on my ballot empty in November.

moy does have a point about Trump and his legacy. Trump would absolutely LOVE to be remembered fondly as President. Unfortunately, if his life-long behavior were to continue as leader of the free world, and there's no reason to believe MORE POWER would humble him or cause him to tone it down, he won't be.

Funny thing is the people supporting Trump are the same people who bashed Newton for being to brash as a QB. Fucksticks.

The same people supporting Trump hate on Obama for his perceived arrogance.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/7/2016 5:59:00 PM (view original):
The same people supporting Trump hate on Obama for his perceived arrogance.

There are so many reasons to hate on Obama that his arrogance is way down the list.

Posted by bad_luck on 4/7/2016 5:59:00 PM (view original):
The same people supporting Trump hate on Obama for his perceived arrogance.

The difference between Obama and Trump is that I think Obama's intentions are sincere, though usually terribly misguided.

Trump is all about Trump. Everything else, including America, is secondary.

Do you think Trump would like to be regarded as "The best President evah"?

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/7/2016 9:27:00 PM (view original):
Do you think Trump would like to be regarded as "The best President evah"?

No. But I think he will try.

Twenty-five percent of Bernie Sanders voters say they will not vote for Hillary Clinton. You know, we see this on the Republican side all the time. Every primary we get the exit polls. The Drive-Bys love to tell us how many Republicans say they're never voting Trump no matter what, and they put the number at 25% or 30%. And then they run out crediting these groups called never-Trumps, Alt-Right, what have you. They're never gonna vote for Trump. They love to highlight that.

But now the same thing is happening on the Democrat side. McClatchy news: "Even if she eventually vanquishes Bernie --" what do you mean, "Even if she eventually"? You mean they're having some doubts about this now? I think they are. You got Jeff Greenfield, Politico, "What's Wrong With Hillary?" She can't nail this down. She's losing primary after primary. If it weren't for the rigged game the Democrats have built for superdelegates, she would be in heap big trouble.

There isn't any momentum behind her. There isn't any excitement attached to her. All there is is the presumption that she's the nominee, and clearly a lot of Democrats are not satisfied with that, and many actively opposed to it. So here's McClatchy: "Even if she eventually vanquishes Bernie Sanders," even if? Just last week she was a slam dunk and all this was just for show.

"Even if she eventually vanquishes Bernie, Hillary Clinton might have serious trouble winning over his voters." Twenty-five percent of Sanders supporters say that they would not back Hillary Clinton in a general election if she's the nominee. Only 69% say they would support her. The numbers don't quite jibe there, but it still adds up to trouble, as the situation exists today. And then Bernie, having heard about this, old Bernie's all enthused. He is jazzed. He's running around now saying that she's not qualified. This was last night in Philadelphia, Crazy Bernie on Hillary.

SANDERS: She has been saying lately that she thinks that I am, quote, unquote, not qualified to be president. I don't believe that she is qualified. I don't think that you are qualified if you get $15 million from Wall Street through your super PAC. I don't think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in Iraq. I don't think you are qualified if you have supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement, which has cost us millions of decent paying jobs.

RUSH: I mean, this is off book, folks. This is the same guy, in a debate late last year, who said he wouldn't bring up Hillary's e-mail server problem because it's not an issue. And he apologized to her for the fact that he was even in the news. He made it plain he was a placeholder. He made it plain he never thought he had a chance. Now he's publicly saying she's not qualified. Whatever the Democrats were scheming, whatever they had planned, this was not in the script.

I guarantee you, for another Democrat be running around talking about how she's not qualified -- you know, I firmly believe that Bernie was in there from the head honcho viewpoint, to show that Hillary can win a fight, that she had to struggle for it, she had to overcome things, she wasn't just programmed and a shoo-in. This is getting out of hand now. They're not able to control it.

There isn't unanimous support for Hillary Clinton. There's a lot of opposition to her, and here comes Crazy Bernie and he's exciting all these really screwball leftists, these extremists, and he's hitting all the clichés and buttons. "The super PAC, Iraq, and Wall Street," that's enough to drive those people insane. And they're doing it. And now he's running around talking how she's not qualified? Ooh, that's not supposed to be said by anybody on the Democrat side. You're not supposed to go there.

RUSH: Okay, after Crazy Bernie in Philadelphia listed Hillary Clinton's lack of qualifications to be president, he was on the CBS Evening News, and Nancy Cordes said, "What do you say to the families of Sandy Hook who say that you should apologize for your position on all this?"

SANDERS: Sandy Hook is a tragedy beyond comprehension. Maybe Secretary Clinton might want to apologize to the families who lost their loved ones in Iraq, or Secretary Clinton might want to apologize to the millions of workers in this country who lost their jobs because of the disastrous trade agreements that she supported.

RUSH: Democrats are not supposed to be saying this. They expect the Republicans to run around saying this and they've got retorts, but for a Democrat, a beloved old codger Democrat to be running around saying this kind of thing, they have a problem. You know, all the talk about how the skids have been greased for Hillary. I mean, perceptions count, and the perceptions that are being made and adding up here are not good. They do not argue for inevitability. They do not argue for electability.

And, believe me, inevitability is the major thing Hillary has going for her. Not her substance, not her experience, not her days on the job, not the fact she was first lady. The inevitability of Hillary Clinton is the salient point. And if somebody gets in the way of the inevitability by successfully claiming, "What do you mean inevitable? She's not even qualified," then they've got problems they didn't anticipate. Not that they can't deal with it, don't misunderstand. But this was not in the cards.

HILLARY AND BERNIE IN SLAP DOWN. THE TWO STUPIDEST PEOPLE ON EARTH GOING AFTER EACH OTHER!

LMFAO AT DEMS RETARD FIGHT!

BERNIE WINS 6 of LAST 7. HILLARY DEAD IN WATER! BERNIE TAKES IN MORE MONEY! BERNIE TO WIN NEW YORK!

Posted by DougOut on 4/7/2016 10:24:00 PM (view original):
HILLARY AND BERNIE IN SLAP DOWN. THE TWO STUPIDEST PEOPLE ON EARTH GOING AFTER EACH OTHER!

LMFAO AT DEMS RETARD FIGHT!

WRONG!! You and Rush are the "TWO STUPIDEST PEOPLE ON EARTH"