2016 Presidential Race Topic

Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
I'll vote in other elections. I just won't vote for Trump or Hillary. No way in hell would I let the Libs have WH, S and HoR if I could help it.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/04/ted-cruz-insists-only-he-or-trump-should-be-nominee/
4/4/2016 3:08 PM
Shocking. A politician makes a self-serving statement. Please link the "water is wet, fire is hot" article next.
4/4/2016 3:23 PM
A vote for Kasich is a vote for Trump, but a vote for Cruz is a vote for Kasich.
Whose slogan should that be?
4/4/2016 3:26 PM
Posted by moy23 on 4/4/2016 3:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
I'll vote in other elections. I just won't vote for Trump or Hillary. No way in hell would I let the Libs have WH, S and HoR if I could help it.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/04/ted-cruz-insists-only-he-or-trump-should-be-nominee/
Is there a point to this, other than it's 110% self-serving for a candidate to publicly wish that their opponents drop out of the race?
4/4/2016 3:27 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2016 3:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/4/2016 3:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
I'll vote in other elections. I just won't vote for Trump or Hillary. No way in hell would I let the Libs have WH, S and HoR if I could help it.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/04/ted-cruz-insists-only-he-or-trump-should-be-nominee/
Is there a point to this, other than it's 110% self-serving for a candidate to publicly wish that their opponents drop out of the race?
Yes. He spells out what I've been saying about 80% of people voting for Trump and Cruz ... And then goes on to say the people should rightly revolt.
4/4/2016 3:35 PM
Straight Lyin' Ted can say the people will rightly revolt and there's no backlash.... But Donald says they'll probably riot and all hell breaks loose in the biased pathetic media.
4/4/2016 3:36 PM
Angry Trump and Cruz supporters take to the streets in revolt!

4/4/2016 3:44 PM
Posted by moy23 on 4/4/2016 3:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2016 3:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/4/2016 3:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 4/4/2016 11:08:00 AM (view original):
I'll vote in other elections. I just won't vote for Trump or Hillary. No way in hell would I let the Libs have WH, S and HoR if I could help it.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/04/ted-cruz-insists-only-he-or-trump-should-be-nominee/
Is there a point to this, other than it's 110% self-serving for a candidate to publicly wish that their opponents drop out of the race?
Yes. He spells out what I've been saying about 80% of people voting for Trump and Cruz ... And then goes on to say the people should rightly revolt.
Three things:

1) I think you are having a hard time grasping the concept that the party controls the nomination rules, not the candidates.

2) Just because someone voted for Cruz or Trump doesn't necessarily mean they will be upset (or revolt) if someone else gets the nomination. If I had to vote, and I could only choose between Cruz and Trump, I'd vote for Cruz. But I'd be pretty happy if he was replaced with a better option later on.

3) I'm surprised you aren't a fan of Paul Ryan considering the fact that you're a big fan of Mitt Romney and Scott Walker. Also, Ryan would have a really good chance in November. Trump has no chance in November and Cruz's prospects aren't great.
4/4/2016 4:14 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 4/4/2016 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Angry Trump and Cruz supporters take to the streets in revolt!

Can't be a riot. No black people.
4/4/2016 4:25 PM
RACIST!!11!!!!
4/4/2016 4:50 PM
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This is fun:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/can-you-get-trump-to-1237/

If Trump only gets <12 delegates from WI tomorrow, he's going to miss out on 1237 and he's essentially done.
4/4/2016 5:11 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 4/4/2016 5:11:00 PM (view original):
This is fun:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/can-you-get-trump-to-1237/

If Trump only gets <12 delegates from WI tomorrow, he's going to miss out on 1237 and he's essentially done.
It will only be Cruz and Trump on the ballet (rule 40b).... But as to the 1237... Trump will take 90+ in NY to offset WI. Then the next MONTH favors Trump in the Northeast. There are 125 unaccounted-for delegates of which 54 are in Trump-friendly Pennsylvania and more in some other states he won like Tenn and Louisiana. Sounds like Trump may have locked up 12 from Missouri... He's threatening court for others. Not all of the delegates are #nevertrump people, which I think you assume. Many of the delegates have said they feel it's their moral obligation to support the candidate that won their district.
4/4/2016 5:52 PM (edited)
Posted by moy23 on 4/4/2016 5:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/4/2016 5:11:00 PM (view original):
This is fun:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/can-you-get-trump-to-1237/

If Trump only gets <12 delegates from WI tomorrow, he's going to miss out on 1237 and he's essentially done.
It will only be Cruz and Trump on the ballet (rule 40b).... But as to the 1237... Trump will take 90+ in NY to offset WI. Then the next MONTH favors Trump in the Northeast. There are 125 unaccounted-for delegates of which 54 are in Trump-friendly Pennsylvania and more in some other states he won like Tenn and Louisiana. Sounds like Trump may have locked up 12 from Missouri... He's threatening court for others. Not all of the delegates are #nevertrump people, which I think you assume. Many of the delegates have said they feel it's their moral obligation to support the candidate that won their district.
There is no guarantee he gets 90+ in NY. The polling isn't showing that big of a landslide.

And, again, rule 40 isn't for sure. The party would have to put it into place and there are a lot of people in the party that see what a disaster Trump is. Paul Ryan is very popular and would probably win the general election.
4/4/2016 5:57 PM
Moy, let's play a hypothetical.

Let's say the Acme Party has three possible candidates for President: Tom, Dick and Harry. Tom looks like he will be heading into the Acme National Convention this summer with the most delegates from the caucuses and primaries, but not enough to garner the nomination on the first ballot. Dick also has a lot of delegates, but is a distant second. Harry is dead last among the three.

However . . . national polls show that Tom is virtually guaranteed to be unelectable in the general election in November, no matter what (despite what his delusional followers may believe). Dick may have somewhat more success than Tom in the general election, but is also likely to lose. However, national polls show that Harry would actually be favored to win in November against the other parties likely candidate, Sally, because a great deal of people mistrust and dislike Sally.

What would be in the Acme Party's best interests . . . nominating their "leading" candidate who is doomed to lose to Sally in November, or throw tradition aside and nominate the candidate who is most likely favored to bring the Presidency to the Acme Party?
4/4/2016 6:45 PM
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