Posted by bad_luck on 1/20/2016 4:58:00 PM (view original):
Economically.

Socially.

Foreign policy has been the biggest problem and even that's just OK. Not great, not disastrous.

Tell Israel and our other allies in the middle east that his foreign policy wasn't disastrous.
Tell the millions of refugees who had to leave Syria that his foreign policy wasn't disastrous.
Tell the families of the 4 people killed in Bengazi that his foreign policy wasn't disastrous.

Your looking glass is F()cked up!

Holy sh*t.  What planet do you live on?

Economically the average income per household has gone down since 2008. That with Obamacare costing people 20% more this year than last one realyl restricts the economy from blooming.

Socially we have had race and class warfare for 7 years by the Great Divider.

John Kerry is such a disaster, he even f*cks up a cup of coffee...and that doesn't include Hillary's disasters.

BL, get off drugs before it is too late.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/20/2016 4:58:00 PM (view original):
Economically.

Socially.

Foreign policy has been the biggest problem and even that's just OK. Not great, not disastrous.

As the bottom falls out of the market, much like Bush last year, 2008.

Now everyone hates the rich, the police, republicans, the south, and Christians.

And Foreign Policy.... Where to begin? ITS A ******* DISATER UNDER OBAMA!!! No one can argue otherwise.

Jesus. 

Economically, I feel like there's a bigger divide between the haves/have nots.   The middle class has moved and my guess is more are in lower class.

Socially, there is a bigger divide between race and class than in my lifetime that I remember.    And I remember most of the 70s.

Foreign policy, yeah, disaster.    I seriously have no idea how anyone can argue different.   Hell, I bet at night Michelle says "****, Barack, our foreign relations are horrible.  How'd you **** that up so bad?"

Posted by moy23 on 1/20/2016 5:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/20/2016 4:58:00 PM (view original):
Economically.

Socially.

Foreign policy has been the biggest problem and even that's just OK. Not great, not disastrous.

As the bottom falls out of the market, much like Bush last year, 2008.

Now everyone hates the rich, the police, republicans, the south, and Christians.

And Foreign Policy.... Where to begin? ITS A ******* DISATER UNDER OBAMA!!! No one can argue otherwise.

Markets go up and down. I'm sure if gas prices were up you'd blame that on Obama. The fact is that most people are better off financially than they were at the bottom of the recession. Unless you think Obama is to blame for the recession, his term has been a success.

Socially, gays have marriage equality, more people are aware of and working to end the racism in the justice system, fewer people are going to jail for minor drug offenses, and the death penalty is as unpopular as ever. Also less people are denying that man-made climate change is real, so that's progress.

Foreign policy-wise, most of the worlds problems are beyond any leader's control. But we have less troops over seas fighting wars, America hasn't fallen victim to any large scale terrorist attacks, Obama worked out the Iran deal, the Cuba deal, and Bin Laden is dead.

Yep, giving Iran everything they wanted while keeping Americans hostages in not a disaster.
Yep, giving Cuba everything they wanted while continuing to persecute political prisoners is not a disaster.

BL real quote "I love a communist dictatorship!"


LIV.

Economically the average income per household has gone down since 2008. The economy isn't just day trading.

Forcing people to change their definition of marriage is social justice.

Are race relations in America better, worse or about the same as they were before Barack Obama became president?     Answer Percent 20% 40% 60% 80% 100%    1. Better 0.92%      2. Worse  95.58%      3. About the same 2.95%      4. Not sure 0.55%

On the plus side, unemployment is down.   This Administration has done a fine job of creating low-paying, part-time jobs.  

A country full of chicken pluckers!

Posted by bad_luck on 1/20/2016 6:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 1/20/2016 5:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/20/2016 4:58:00 PM (view original):
Economically.

Socially.

Foreign policy has been the biggest problem and even that's just OK. Not great, not disastrous.

As the bottom falls out of the market, much like Bush last year, 2008.

Now everyone hates the rich, the police, republicans, the south, and Christians.

And Foreign Policy.... Where to begin? ITS A ******* DISATER UNDER OBAMA!!! No one can argue otherwise.

Markets go up and down. I'm sure if gas prices were up you'd blame that on Obama. The fact is that most people are better off financially than they were at the bottom of the recession. Unless you think Obama is to blame for the recession, his term has been a success.

Socially, gays have marriage equality, more people are aware of and working to end the racism in the justice system, fewer people are going to jail for minor drug offenses, and the death penalty is as unpopular as ever. Also less people are denying that man-made climate change is real, so that's progress.

Foreign policy-wise, most of the worlds problems are beyond any leader's control. But we have less troops over seas fighting wars, America hasn't fallen victim to any large scale terrorist attacks, Obama worked out the Iran deal, the Cuba deal, and Bin Laden is dead.

LOL.

Read what you just said about "economically" -

1)  "If gas prices were up you'd blame that on Obama" - I've been seeing memes from my liberal friends on FB pointing out $4 gas under Bush and $2 gas under Obama.  So I guess $4 gas was Bush's fault.

2)  "Most people are better off financially than they were at the bottom of the recession" - it would be close to impossible for most people to be worse off now than they were at the bottom of the recession since the recession is now years past in the rear view mirror.  The better question is: have we recovered better than we would have under 4 or 8 years of McCain?  It's a hypothetical question with no way to definitively answer, but it's incredibly naive to think that we're definitively in the best possible economic shape possible after 7 years of Obama.

As to socially . . . that's up to individuals to decide for themselves.  The way you've been railing on the the racist police killing black people over the past couple of years in these forums, it's odd to see you argue that racism is getting better under Obama.  I'm not sure I'd characterize the "unpopularity" of the death penalty as a positive thing.  And climate change is hardly a settled subject.  Pretty much all of the supposed "science" that backs the idea of man-made climate change conveniently ignores the biggest factor in climate change, which is our planets interaction with a rather large ball of gas 93 million miles away and the known and measurable cyclical changes in the earth's orbit and wobble in the tilt of it's axis which just happen to coincide with all previous cycles of planetary climate change.

Foreign policy has been a disaster since day 1 of the Obama Administration.  Bin Laden is dead.  Yea!!!  But now there's ISIS.

1) I've never blamed any President for gas prices. I was just responding to moy blaming Obama for the stock market going down these last few days. In 2011, the S&P was below 1200. Now it's over 1800. 

2) If it's a hypothetical that can't be answered, how do you know we aren't in the best possible economic shape? What would be the best possible economic shape? Lower unemployment? Higher wages? What types of policies would need to be put in place to achieve those goals?

3) We know climate change is man made because we can date the carbon isotopes in the atmosphere. Science is not ignoring the sun.

I have yet to see a single "study" on climate change that attempts to coalesce the "man made" causes with the known science about the earth's orbit and wobble in it's axis, which would be the biggest factors in planetary climate change.

Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share one.

Can anyone name the death penalty recipient that was a positive influence on society?