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Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 7:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Why would that have helped? The GOP's goal was to say no regardless of his offer.

Let's walk this one back so you can see...

WHY was the GOPs goal (as you say) to say No?

Obstruction is a tool to regain power. Say no to everything, block your opponent from getting anything done, blame opponent for lack of progress.

And people like you buy it.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 8:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 7:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Why would that have helped? The GOP's goal was to say no regardless of his offer.

Let's walk this one back so you can see...

WHY was the GOPs goal (as you say) to say No?

Obstruction is a tool to regain power. Say no to everything, block your opponent from getting anything done, blame opponent for lack of progress.

Let's keep walking this back.... During Obama's 1st term his party held 58 of 100 Senate Seats and 257 of 435 House Seats. What were the republicans going to obstruct?

Anything they wanted to block they could with a filibuster.

Look I'm not in love with Obama. He's done several things that I disagree with. But blaming him for not working with the GOP is stupid.

Why is it stupid?

Posted by tecwrg on 6/4/2015 9:40:00 PM (view original):
Why is it stupid?

well you know - because the half of the country that support the GOP are stupid.

Posted by tecwrg on 6/4/2015 9:40:00 PM (view original):
Why is it stupid?

Because it ignores the fact that there was nothing that Obama could have reasonably offered that would have gotten a yes. The GOP goal was obstruction, not concessions.

From day one. To ignore that is stupid.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 9:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 6/4/2015 9:40:00 PM (view original):
Why is it stupid?

Because it ignores the fact that there was nothing that Obama could have reasonably offered that would have gotten a yes. The GOP goal was obstruction, not concessions.

True. There was nothing OBAMA could have reasonably offered because he was pompous and disingenuous.... However a strong leader would have gotten it done with republicans. Maybe say... a leader more focused on job growth during the 'worst recession since the great depression' than his own costly healthcare agenda would have done the trick.

Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 9:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 8:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 7:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Why would that have helped? The GOP's goal was to say no regardless of his offer.

Let's walk this one back so you can see...

WHY was the GOPs goal (as you say) to say No?

Obstruction is a tool to regain power. Say no to everything, block your opponent from getting anything done, blame opponent for lack of progress.

Let's keep walking this back.... During Obama's 1st term his party held 58 of 100 Senate Seats and 257 of 435 House Seats. What were the republicans going to obstruct?

BL explained it, you ignored it.

Posted by The Taint on 6/4/2015 10:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 9:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 8:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/4/2015 7:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/4/2015 7:38:00 PM (view original):
Why would that have helped? The GOP's goal was to say no regardless of his offer.

Let's walk this one back so you can see...

WHY was the GOPs goal (as you say) to say No?

Obstruction is a tool to regain power. Say no to everything, block your opponent from getting anything done, blame opponent for lack of progress.

Let's keep walking this back.... During Obama's 1st term his party held 58 of 100 Senate Seats and 257 of 435 House Seats. What were the republicans going to obstruct?

BL explained it, you ignored it.

These filibusters?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/05/09/four-pinocchios-for-obamas-claim-that-republicans-have-filibustered-about-500-pieces-of-legislation/

Part of a presidents job is to work through filibusters - I can't think of a single filibuster free president. Did Obama think the POTUS was going to be a cakewalk job?