Ferguson Police should be outlawed Topic

MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
Posted by moy23 on 4/11/2015 8:51:00 PM (view original):
For MikeT - http://www.wistv.com/story/28772115/mans-candid-honest-video-about-race-and-traffic-stops-is-going-viral

"The point of this is to say that I am an African American male, this gentleman was Caucasian. There were no problems. He did his job, I did what I was supposed to do, and that was it." 


Huh, imagine that.

4/12/2015 10:39 AM
This post has a rating of , which is below the default threshold.
Show
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
His father suggested that he wasn't paying child support and didn't want to go back to jail. 
4/12/2015 11:21 AM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
That said, I don't think Scott's case can be compared to Garner, Rice, Brown.    Clear threats were neutralized.    Scott was running away.
4/12/2015 11:23 AM
This post has a rating of , which is below the default threshold.
Show
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect

Was Scott unaware of the dash cam on cop cars?

4/12/2015 11:33 AM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
Let's put it this way:   Slager was a bad cop.    A stupid cop.    Removing the video, he's still in deep ****.   He shot a man in the back at 20+ yards.   Forensics would tell the story.    How in the hell could he justify his actions?   "He grabbed my taser?"   OK, good.   And he was 20 yards away, running with his back to you, when you fired 8 shots.    How was he a threat at that point?
4/12/2015 11:41 AM
stinenavy
Posts: 4004 (0)
Hall of Famer
4 330 1
All Star
Did the dash cam record the shooting?

Without video, the cop is free to choose whatever narrative he wants to justify his actions. Which is what happened in the initial news reports, hell the news media did the handiwork that Slager needed.

Slager = distinguished veteran with a spotless record
Scott = deadbeat, ex-con

Is it more difficult to justify shooting a guy in the back? Of course, but proving to a jury that a police officer is lying sack of crap is not easy business.
4/12/2015 12:06 PM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
Did the confrontation start when the bullets were flying?

Oh, I see what you're doing.   By "people", you mean the cops not the people they're pursuing.    So, really, people in general don't necessarily follow the rules when they know they're being watched.   Individuals tend to make their own decisions whether they're being filmed or not.
4/12/2015 12:32 PM
bad_luck
Posts: 21761 (0)
Hall of Famer
48 1 10
Prospect
Posted by moy23 on 4/12/2015 11:11:00 AM (view original):
Donte Hamilton - grabs a cops billy club - gets killed
Michael Brown - punches a cop through the cops window - gets killed
Eric Garner - resists arrest while shouting you're not taking me in - gets killed
Walter Scott - runs from a cop during a traffic stop - gets killed

None of these nice guys cooperated with the police. Its not a question of do they deserve to be shot. No one deserves that. Its more the issue that these guys undoubtedly provoked the incident which resulted in their deaths. If people are too blind to see that then shame on them.

I am curious why Walter Scott ran in the first place but I've stopped following the case since the white cop shoots black criminal is a tired, played out narrative, with no leg to stand on.
Nope. The burden falls on the cops to enforce the law without unnecessarily killing people.
4/12/2015 7:53 PM
moy23
Posts: 13750 (0)
Hall of Famer
2 57 251 108
Prospect
Posted by bad_luck on 4/12/2015 7:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/12/2015 11:11:00 AM (view original):
Donte Hamilton - grabs a cops billy club - gets killed
Michael Brown - punches a cop through the cops window - gets killed
Eric Garner - resists arrest while shouting you're not taking me in - gets killed
Walter Scott - runs from a cop during a traffic stop - gets killed

None of these nice guys cooperated with the police. Its not a question of do they deserve to be shot. No one deserves that. Its more the issue that these guys undoubtedly provoked the incident which resulted in their deaths. If people are too blind to see that then shame on them.

I am curious why Walter Scott ran in the first place but I've stopped following the case since the white cop shoots black criminal is a tired, played out narrative, with no leg to stand on.
Nope. The burden falls on the cops to enforce the law without unnecessarily killing people.
Does it? Three of the four cops were not even indicted, never mind stood trial.

That's the problem with you... You are all theory. Theoretically it would be real nice if cops could enforce the law without 'unnecessarily' killing people... But in reality they are dealing with people that have multiple convictions, who will punch them in their car, grab for their billy clubs, and/or fight back in a scuffle when the officer catches up to them and tries to bring them down. I mean - Theoretically it would be nice if cops didn't get shot in the face for doing their job but reality (like 2 weeks ago in Boston) suggests that getting shot in the face is a real possibility for them when making a routine traffic stop.
4/12/2015 10:18 PM
This post has a rating of , which is below the default threshold.
Show
bad_luck
Posts: 21761 (0)
Hall of Famer
48 1 10
Prospect
Posted by moy23 on 4/12/2015 10:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 4/12/2015 7:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 4/12/2015 11:11:00 AM (view original):
Donte Hamilton - grabs a cops billy club - gets killed
Michael Brown - punches a cop through the cops window - gets killed
Eric Garner - resists arrest while shouting you're not taking me in - gets killed
Walter Scott - runs from a cop during a traffic stop - gets killed

None of these nice guys cooperated with the police. Its not a question of do they deserve to be shot. No one deserves that. Its more the issue that these guys undoubtedly provoked the incident which resulted in their deaths. If people are too blind to see that then shame on them.

I am curious why Walter Scott ran in the first place but I've stopped following the case since the white cop shoots black criminal is a tired, played out narrative, with no leg to stand on.
Nope. The burden falls on the cops to enforce the law without unnecessarily killing people.
Does it? Three of the four cops were not even indicted, never mind stood trial.

That's the problem with you... You are all theory. Theoretically it would be real nice if cops could enforce the law without 'unnecessarily' killing people... But in reality they are dealing with people that have multiple convictions, who will punch them in their car, grab for their billy clubs, and/or fight back in a scuffle when the officer catches up to them and tries to bring them down. I mean - Theoretically it would be nice if cops didn't get shot in the face for doing their job but reality (like 2 weeks ago in Boston) suggests that getting shot in the face is a real possibility for them when making a routine traffic stop.
And Walter Scott suggests that being murdered by a cop is a possibility. The burden falls on the government to not murder civilians. It's not on the civilians to avoid being murdered but the government.
4/12/2015 11:11 PM
This post has a rating of , which is below the default threshold.
Show
bad_luck
Posts: 21761 (0)
Hall of Famer
48 1 10
Prospect
Do you think it was murder?
4/12/2015 11:34 PM
◂ Prev 1...101|102|103|104|105...142 Next ▸
Ferguson Police should be outlawed Topic
△Top△Bottom

Search Criteria

Terms of Use Customer Support Privacy Statement

© 1999-2025 WhatIfSports.com, Inc. All rights reserved. WhatIfSports is a trademark of WhatIfSports.com, Inc. SimLeague, SimMatchup and iSimNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts, Inc. Used under license. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.