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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
The medical examiner said he died of homicide, using NYS's definition. A grand jury said he didn't. Who is wrong? 
The ME is not part of the justice system.  The grand jury is.
12/4/2014 3:41 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
The medical examiner said he died of homicide, using NYS's definition. A grand jury said he didn't. Who is wrong? 
Perhaps the ME doesn't know the meaning of homicide.

"the deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another"
Yea, he should have googled "definition of homicide" rather than use the definition the NYS judicial system uses.
12/4/2014 3:42 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):
"DON'T CUFF ME!!!  I'M ALLERGIC TO METAL!!!!"
"LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!"
"DON'T CHASE ME!!!!!!   I HAVE A HEART CONDITION!!!!!"
Right. The answer to your question is "No, not everyone being arrested gives an excuse on why they can't be treated the way they are at that moment." 
But some do, right?

If you're a cop trying to take down a much larger man, should you back off and let him go?
I might let up a touch on his ******* neck. And if he tries to fight back, I'll do something about it. Garner resisted arrest, but he never gave any indication that he was a threat to a police officer.
You'd be a dead cop. Probably a good thing you are not in law enforcement.
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Posted by tecwrg on 12/4/2014 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:37:00 PM (view original):
The medical examiner said he died of homicide, using NYS's definition. A grand jury said he didn't. Who is wrong? 
The ME is not part of the justice system.  The grand jury is.
Yea. So who's wrong?
12/4/2014 3:42 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):
"DON'T CUFF ME!!!  I'M ALLERGIC TO METAL!!!!"
"LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!"
"DON'T CHASE ME!!!!!!   I HAVE A HEART CONDITION!!!!!"
Right. The answer to your question is "No, not everyone being arrested gives an excuse on why they can't be treated the way they are at that moment." 
But some do, right?

If you're a cop trying to take down a much larger man, should you back off and let him go?
I might let up a touch on his ******* neck. And if he tries to fight back, I'll do something about it. Garner resisted arrest, but he never gave any indication that he was a threat to a police officer.
Ever been in a fight?   A real one not some slapping match between you and your buddy in 3rd grade.   Or not some BS shoving match where there's a group standing around waiting to "break it up".
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Posted by moy23 on 12/4/2014 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):
"DON'T CUFF ME!!!  I'M ALLERGIC TO METAL!!!!"
"LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!"
"DON'T CHASE ME!!!!!!   I HAVE A HEART CONDITION!!!!!"
Right. The answer to your question is "No, not everyone being arrested gives an excuse on why they can't be treated the way they are at that moment." 
But some do, right?

If you're a cop trying to take down a much larger man, should you back off and let him go?
I might let up a touch on his ******* neck. And if he tries to fight back, I'll do something about it. Garner resisted arrest, but he never gave any indication that he was a threat to a police officer.
You'd be a dead cop. Probably a good thing you are not in law enforcement.
That seems incredibly unlikely in this situation.
12/4/2014 3:43 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):
"DON'T CUFF ME!!!  I'M ALLERGIC TO METAL!!!!"
"LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!"
"DON'T CHASE ME!!!!!!   I HAVE A HEART CONDITION!!!!!"
Right. The answer to your question is "No, not everyone being arrested gives an excuse on why they can't be treated the way they are at that moment." 
But some do, right?

If you're a cop trying to take down a much larger man, should you back off and let him go?
I might let up a touch on his ******* neck. And if he tries to fight back, I'll do something about it. Garner resisted arrest, but he never gave any indication that he was a threat to a police officer.
Ever been in a fight?   A real one not some slapping match between you and your buddy in 3rd grade.   Or not some BS shoving match where there's a group standing around waiting to "break it up".
Garner wasn't fighting anyone.
12/4/2014 3:43 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/4/2014 3:34:00 PM (view original):
"DON'T CUFF ME!!!  I'M ALLERGIC TO METAL!!!!"
"LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!"
"DON'T CHASE ME!!!!!!   I HAVE A HEART CONDITION!!!!!"
Right. The answer to your question is "No, not everyone being arrested gives an excuse on why they can't be treated the way they are at that moment." 
But some do, right?

If you're a cop trying to take down a much larger man, should you back off and let him go?
I might let up a touch on his ******* neck. And if he tries to fight back, I'll do something about it. Garner resisted arrest, but he never gave any indication that he was a threat to a police officer.
Ever been in a fight?   A real one not some slapping match between you and your buddy in 3rd grade.   Or not some BS shoving match where there's a group standing around waiting to "break it up".
Garner wasn't fighting anyone.
The cop was. 

You don't "let up a touch" when you're physically trying to take someone down.   You want them down. 
12/4/2014 3:45 PM
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A body is found in a trash bin. The ME determines he died of homicide. Is the question "are we sure he died of homicide" or is it "who did it?"

Imagine we find the person who did it on video. Clear as day. Can you imagine a scenario where this person ISNT EVEN INDICTED?
12/4/2014 3:45 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:45:00 PM (view original):
A body is found in a trash bin. The ME determines he died of homicide. Is the question "are we sure he died of homicide" or is it "who did it?"

Imagine we find the person who did it on video. Clear as day. Can you imagine a scenario where this person ISNT EVEN INDICTED?
If a cop hid a body in a trash bin, I bet he'd be indicted.
12/4/2014 3:46 PM
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Garner is on the ground when he says "I can't breathe." And he continues to hold on.
12/4/2014 3:47 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 12/4/2014 3:47:00 PM (view original):
Garner is on the ground when he says "I can't breathe." And he continues to hold on.
Been thru this.   "LOWER YOUR GUNS!!!!  I'M UNARMED!!!!" post.
12/4/2014 3:48 PM
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Cops deal with liars, cheaters, theives, murderers, rapists, etc, etc, every day.    Not a whole lot of them are truthful.
12/4/2014 3:49 PM
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Have you seen the video? Garner isn't going anywhere.
12/4/2014 3:50 PM
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You know what, **** it, might as well shoot him the moment he says "don't touch me." He might fight you. It's not like you're going to jail when you do it.
12/4/2014 3:51 PM
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