Posted by dahsdebater on 9/9/2014 10:32:00 PM (view original):
The qualifications haven't changed.  It was expanded to cell phones under Bush; any expansion is merely a factor of more people catching on to its existence.  That is in no way the fault of the administration...

Again, I never voted for Obama, and I'm not a particularly big fan.  But you have to pick your battles.  When you go around trying to criticize him endlessly for things that he has next to nothing or nothing to do with, you sound like an idiot, and then other people of a similar educational level wonder how I can possibly vote Republican.  You're making me look bad.  Pull your head out of your *** and get a clue.

Posted by DougOut on 9/9/2014 11:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 9/9/2014 10:32:00 PM (view original):
The qualifications haven't changed.  It was expanded to cell phones under Bush; any expansion is merely a factor of more people catching on to its existence.  That is in no way the fault of the administration...

Again, I never voted for Obama, and I'm not a particularly big fan.  But you have to pick your battles.  When you go around trying to criticize him endlessly for things that he has next to nothing or nothing to do with, you sound like an idiot, and then other people of a similar educational level wonder how I can possibly vote Republican.  You're making me look bad.  Pull your head out of your *** and get a clue.

Here's a clue.  

Compare the money spent under the phone program prior to Obama vs. now.  They advertised it.  Sold it.  Votes!

Compare 4 trillion new debt in 8 years while fighting two wars vs. 10 trillion in new debt in less that 6 years while pulling out.

I'm tired of picking my battles.  I'm fighting all of them.  1980.

Reagan did amnesty.  We had a thing with Iran.  Soviet Union. Tear down this wall. Small Navy and rebuild military.  Nobody respected us.  Bad economy.  

That was 1980.  It's 2014.  It's Jimmy Carter redo under Obama.  We are right back where we started.  

Iran. Russia. Economy.  

And the expenditures have expanded.  And their is a difference.  They are democrat.  They are union and baseline budget and establishment Republican.  They are unsustainable.  And there are two choices.  A gentle landing and growth under different policy which I doubt is still possible, or a hard crash.  Soup lines and riots. This is not your daddies Buick. 

And as much as I hate the cell phone giveaway, I hate the fact that Frank-Dodd is still in place and the housing bubble has never been addressed.  The banks have been propped up with trillions of dollars under the Fed and the imbedded bureaucracy writes more regulation everyday under a stifling corporate tax. 

What do I know.  Perhaps I should get a clue.  I make you look bad.

Posted by dahsdebater on 9/9/2014 10:32:00 PM (view original):
The qualifications haven't changed.  It was expanded to cell phones under Bush; any expansion is merely a factor of more people catching on to its existence.  That is in no way the fault of the administration...

Again, I never voted for Obama, and I'm not a particularly big fan.  But you have to pick your battles.  When you go around trying to criticize him endlessly for things that he has next to nothing or nothing to do with, you sound like an idiot, and then other people of a similar educational level wonder how I can possibly vote Republican.  You're making me look bad.  Pull your head out of your *** and get a clue.

I have dougout blocked so I'm not 100% positive what you're addressing.

I had no idea it was expanded to cell phones under Bush.   I knew about it pretty quickly under Obama.  Which goes back to my point.
The Dems say "Look what we're doing for you" to their voter base.
The Repubs say "Look how they're spending your tax money" to their voter base.

The Dems have a winning strategy based simply on how many people would like some sort of assistance with their daily issues.

Posted by MikeT23 on 9/10/2014 9:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 9/9/2014 10:32:00 PM (view original):
The qualifications haven't changed.  It was expanded to cell phones under Bush; any expansion is merely a factor of more people catching on to its existence.  That is in no way the fault of the administration...

Again, I never voted for Obama, and I'm not a particularly big fan.  But you have to pick your battles.  When you go around trying to criticize him endlessly for things that he has next to nothing or nothing to do with, you sound like an idiot, and then other people of a similar educational level wonder how I can possibly vote Republican.  You're making me look bad.  Pull your head out of your *** and get a clue.

I have dougout blocked so I'm not 100% positive what you're addressing.

I had no idea it was expanded to cell phones under Bush.   I knew about it pretty quickly under Obama.  Which goes back to my point.
The Dems say "Look what we're doing for you" to their voter base.
The Repubs say "Look how they're spending your tax money" to their voter base.

The Dems have a winning strategy based simply on how many people would like some sort of assistance with their daily issues.

Posted by The Taint on 9/10/2014 11:00:00 AM (view original):
It's not even funded by the government.  Can't believe this is still being talked pushed as a talking point.

Posted by The Taint on 9/10/2014 11:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 9/10/2014 11:23:00 AM (view original):
And food stamps.  I'd never heard an ad for food stamps before 2010.   Something along the lines of "You may qualify if........Call....."

That had to be govt sponsored because there's no way for an individual or company to make money off of them. 

Eh, they don't have to be.  It can be a scam looking for clicks for a website who's income is based on clicks or someone looking to drop some tracking software on your machine.