Obama: Worst President Ever? Topic

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That seems a bit excessive.   But he started opening doors that had been shut.  

The worst of which, IMO, is the laying of the groundwork for Dem elections.   Give the masses something they've never had and they'll vote for you.

11/8/2013 4:17 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 11/8/2013 4:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/8/2013 3:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/8/2013 2:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/8/2013 2:35:00 PM (view original):
I think that it's possible and preferable to assign different levels of blame.
Right.  Like when the Democratic apologists try to spin the facts in order to place the brunt of the blame for the recession onto GWB when it more appropriately should be assigned to Bubba.
You think the brunt of the blame for the recession should be placed on Clinton?

Wow.
Blaming Clinton for the majority of the Financial Meltdown is silly. Some of his policies played a part in the matter but by the time the bubble had burst Clinton had been out of office for 7 years. If you want to reach then blame Reagan... He appointed Greenspan.
Realistically, I doubt there is much any president could have done to stop the recession before it happened.

Obama was too light on the response, though. The stimulus was too small, too short, and not targeted well. Greenspan should get some blame too. The Fed focused too much on interest rates and not enough on unemployment.

 
11/8/2013 4:43 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 11/8/2013 4:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 11/8/2013 4:15:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/8/2013 3:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 11/8/2013 2:43:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 11/8/2013 2:35:00 PM (view original):
I think that it's possible and preferable to assign different levels of blame.
Right.  Like when the Democratic apologists try to spin the facts in order to place the brunt of the blame for the recession onto GWB when it more appropriately should be assigned to Bubba.
You think the brunt of the blame for the recession should be placed on Clinton?

Wow.
Blaming Clinton for the majority of the Financial Meltdown is silly. Some of his policies played a part in the matter but by the time the bubble had burst Clinton had been out of office for 7 years. If you want to reach then blame Reagan... He appointed Greenspan.
Realistically, I doubt there is much any president could have done to stop the recession before it happened.

Obama was too light on the response, though. The stimulus was too small, too short, and not targeted well. Greenspan should get some blame too. The Fed focused too much on interest rates and not enough on unemployment.

 
The sec ruling on net capital calculation in 2004 was what doomed us more than anything else IMO.
11/8/2013 4:48 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/8/2013 4:17:00 PM (view original):
That seems a bit excessive.   But he started opening doors that had been shut.  

The worst of which, IMO, is the laying of the groundwork for Dem elections.   Give the masses something they've never had and they'll vote for you.

You would know.



 
11/8/2013 4:56 PM
MikeT23
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Clinton didn't give me a CC.   He just loosened up the requirements to get one. 
11/8/2013 5:15 PM
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Just like Obama didn't give anyone a phone?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp
11/8/2013 5:26 PM (edited)
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That lady said he gave her a phone.   Maybe he pulled it out of his pocket after he singlehandedly killed Osama.
11/8/2013 5:30 PM
bad_luck
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She was wrong.
11/8/2013 5:49 PM
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Spoke to an immigrant client of mine today and he said the USA has become a laughing stock of a country .... Worlds strongest military and we can't get a simple website working. The last year has been disastrous for the image of this country. He's got a point.
11/8/2013 6:08 PM
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"Truth, consequences and Obamacare"
11/12/2013 10:27 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 11/12/2013 10:27:00 AM (view original):
"Truth, consequences and Obamacare"
An editorial, really? You might as well just link to a talk radio segment.



 
11/12/2013 11:23 AM
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Is that editorial a problem for you?
11/12/2013 1:01 PM
bad_luck
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Why would it be a problem for me?
11/12/2013 1:21 PM
tecwrg
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You seemed to have a negative reaction to my posting it. 
11/12/2013 1:43 PM
bad_luck
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Editorials aren't the best sources of information. Nothing specific to that one. 
11/12/2013 2:16 PM
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