Posted by MikeT23 on 7/17/2013 8:11:00 AM (view original):
It's almost like you guys can't figure things out on your own.    Someone yelling at you is not a threat to your well-being.  Someone following you is not a threat to your well-being.    Someone punching you in the face is a threat to your well-being. 

Zimmerman did not pull the gun on Martin and violence ensued.   Violence occurred, Zimmerman pulled his gun.  ****, we're not talking about a 10 year old kid being questioned by a man.    Who amongst us, when they were 17, didn't think they were a man?

Posted by bistiza on 7/17/2013 8:37:00 AM (view original):

What if, during the struggle, Martin took the gun away and shot Zimmerman. Two questions: do you think he would have walked free? Do you think he should have walked free?

I think Martin WOULD have walked free. In fact, I think the same groups calling for Zimmerman's head right now and prior to the jury's verdict would be called for Martin to walk away a free man if the situation were reversed. I think THEY are the racists because they would side with Martin either way just because he's black. From every article I've read on the topic, that is clearly the case.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/17/2013 8:11:00 AM (view original):
It's almost like you guys can't figure things out on your own.    Someone yelling at you is not a threat to your well-being.  Someone following you is not a threat to your well-being.    Someone punching you in the face is a threat to your well-being. 

Zimmerman did not pull the gun on Martin and violence ensued.   Violence occurred, Zimmerman pulled his gun.  ****, we're not talking about a 10 year old kid being questioned by a man.    Who amongst us, when they were 17, didn't think they were a man?

Posted by The Taint on 7/17/2013 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/17/2013 8:11:00 AM (view original):
It's almost like you guys can't figure things out on your own.    Someone yelling at you is not a threat to your well-being.  Someone following you is not a threat to your well-being.    Someone punching you in the face is a threat to your well-being. 

Zimmerman did not pull the gun on Martin and violence ensued.   Violence occurred, Zimmerman pulled his gun.  ****, we're not talking about a 10 year old kid being questioned by a man.    Who amongst us, when they were 17, didn't think they were a man?

Pure conjecture. You have no idea what happened there.

Posted by shawnfucious on 7/17/2013 9:54:00 AM (view original):
 Trayvon wanted a confrontation bc thats prolly how he was raised when in doubt get violent with ppl and if they are not black also then pull the race card and rally all the black ppl to support you even if you were in the wrong. Black ppl the most racist ppl there are no doubt.

The reason  I still talk about stuff like this is simple.  The reason we have riots and idiots inciting riots is because many people refuse to think clearly and instead depend on their "gut feeling" about what they think happened.

The notion of "obvious racism" will never go away along as the baiters continue to depend on people reacting without a clear thought proces.

Our system of justice depends on rationality, not emotion (that, despite the fact that emotion is used in the process of a trial or decision).  The Race Industry depends on emotion for its continued health, therefore there is a vested interest by those involved to remove as much reason as possible and inject as much emotion as possible.

BL and others want a conviction, not for justice, but so they can feel better.  (Now I'm engaging in speculation, based on the comments I've read).

But ultimately, it's not about how we should feel about this, but about what is right - to the best ability we can get there as a society.

 

Posted by shawnfucious on 7/17/2013 9:54:00 AM (view original):
 Trayvon wanted a confrontation bc thats prolly how he was raised when in doubt get violent with ppl and if they are not black also then pull the race card and rally all the black ppl to support you even if you were in the wrong. Black ppl the most racist ppl there are no doubt.