Posted by iamthetwo__2 on 7/18/2012 10:26:00 AM (view original):
OK Mudda, I picked you yesterday because I was pretty sure you were a townie and I knew csudak was the cop--he investigated me the 1st night.  I was waiting for him to investigate someone else tonite, but that freaking pony got in the way.  Soooo, there is me and you and who????  I still think babcick is mafia because he pushed so hard on aggie.  Then there is pola?? ffb?? and arfy??? who do we trust??????????

I find it a little bit funny that you wait until now to say that the DEAD cop investigated you...  I have talked to csudak this whole game, I pretty much knew just like everyone else he was the cop.... and he never once made mention to me that he investigated you.

EDIT:  To be fair.  He never made mention that he investigated anyone.

Posted by iamthetwo__2 on 7/18/2012 10:26:00 AM (view original):
OK Mudda, I picked you yesterday because I was pretty sure you were a townie and I knew csudak was the cop--he investigated me the 1st night.  I was waiting for him to investigate someone else tonite, but that freaking pony got in the way.  Soooo, there is me and you and who????  I still think babcick is mafia because he pushed so hard on aggie.  Then there is pola?? ffb?? and arfy??? who do we trust??????????

and obviously you answered my question before I got done typing it... but the answer still doesn't make sense.  You voted for him because you thought he was a townie?  Please explain your thought process on this...

Hmmmm... that makes NO sense. Why vote if you think he's a townie. I had sound reasoning for my vote of aggie, and even though it didn't turn out in our favor, I can back up my vote with said reasoning. How many of you can say the same?

Yeah, I want to revisit something for a second..... Yesterday in the lynching of aggie, iamthetwo says this:

Casey had made the comment that he thought FFB and Mudda.  Now Babcick is pushing for Aggie, who in real life has been with his wife having surgery, and I don't think anyone is that low to use a family emergency to win/play in a game.  FFB said he was here, just laying back and watching---sounds Godfathery to me.  I'm thinking Casey might me headed in the right direction, and I'm going to go along with his original thought process and vote to lynch-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------MUDDA.

Now today... You say this?

OK Mudda, I picked you yesterday because I was pretty sure you were a townie and I knew csudak was the cop--he investigated me the 1st night.  I was waiting for him to investigate someone else tonite, but that freaking pony got in the way.  Soooo, there is me and you and who????  I still think babcick is mafia because he pushed so hard on aggie.  Then there is pola?? ffb?? and arfy??? who do we trust??????????

I would like to hear mudda's comment as well as everyone elses here... and here is why.

I have pretty much been talking to and trusting mudda this whole game. 

No offense, mudda, we go way back... but I'm usually pretty good at these games... and to have absolutely no clue at this point makes me wonder if I have trusted the wrong guy.. It just makes no sense.

I voted for him because I figured he was safe.  I didn't say anything about being investigated because csudak asked me not to.  EDIT here is his site mail to me.

From:

csudak

To:

iamthetwo__2

Received:

7/16/2012 9:00:00 PM

Subject:

mafia game

Message:

cc: caesari and iamthetwo

Hey iam,

You asked about me in the forums so I thought I'd drop you a line. I play gridiron dynasty and just got into hardball dynasty. I troll the forums but don't participate too much, just like to gain info. I have played the last 3 survivor games and have finished top 5, but this is my first time with mafia. I know alot of the guys from survivor and thought it would be fun.

As far as the game, he is what I know, you are not the mafia member. You might be the godfather and the game is about to get easier for you if you are, but I investigated you last night and you are innocent. Like pola said in the forum, with this new role of godfather, I have a 1 in 7 shot of trusting you. Hopefully I'm not unlucky. Of course if you bump me off next and I passed this info on to someone else, then everyone will know you are the godfather and the game will be over for you next, so do you act now, or just lead me along for a little bit.

Ball is in your court now.

I do ask that you do not pass this info to anyone else until I can investigate someone else.

Posted by polabonez on 7/18/2012 10:30:00 AM (view original):
What I know:

Everyone voted the doctor dead except for me and iamthetwo.

Don't get me wrong, after I voted for arfy I was just as confident as everyone else that aggie was hiding something.  Then, as me and mudda discussed, I just thought he was a terrible doctor.

Before csudak got drowned by his pony, he had told me in sitemail he thought we were making a mistake.  He wanted to change the vote for ffbplayergod, arfy, or babcick so we wouldn't lynch the doctor by mistake.  I told him I was ok with this strategy.  I had already voted for arfy, so I just left it as it was and no one else switched their vote, and then HE votes for aggie too, so I don't know wtf happened there... other than the fact I felt pretty confident aggie was going to come back as mafia as well.

I have an honest argument why I don't think any of you are mafia.  but 2 of you are.. so all of that is now out the window. 

I have a couple of questions I would like to ask out here in the open:

Mudda:  "  It's clear from nyaggie's lynching who at least one of them is".  I'd like to you to elaborate on this.  After looking back at the lynching, I don't see anything that's clear....maybe the fact that babcick looks ridiculously suspicious... but I am wondering if you are thinking the same thing as me.

iamthetwo:  "Why were you here, posting in the thread the whole time, but never actually TALKING about the vote yesterday.  And why wait to vote. And then when you do vote, you vote for mudda?  Whether or not you think mudda is mafia, why just throw that vote out there when you KNOW it means absolutely nothing?    I was pretty sure after you did that that aggie would come back as mafia, and you were the other one (who refused to vote for him), but now that the truth is out there I cant figure out why in the hell you would do it?  It makes no sense.

After the game is over, I'll let you know why I'm asking for sitemails.

To elaborate:  Once it was clear that nyaggie was the doctor with his “I can say I'm not in the mafia but my hands do have a healing power” post on page 8, babcick changed his lynch vote to nyaggie on page 9 at 12:16pm. I think babcick is mafia.  Why else would he change his vote?  I asked him to answer that question, but he did not.  He is hiding something.

Iamthe2:  I agree with pola that your post about wanting to lynch me as a townie makes no sense. 

Now for pola:  he says pretty much everyone knew casey was the cop.  Either he is assuming that, or his sitemails to other players convinced him that they also knew.  I'd like arfy, ffb, babcick, and iamthe2 to come forward and prove what pola says is true.  If pola didn't tell anyone else, it makes him look shady.  Also, at the start of this game, pola let me know that Casey told him that he was not a townie.  With the vigilante and doctor out of the way, pola knew csudak had to be the cop.
This is me assuming that pola is mafia.  Not sure, but us townies are grasping at straws.  No one should be above suspicion.

ffb:  voted to lynch aggie.

arfy:  who knows what's up with that guy?

I just get the feeling you and iamthetwo are sitting back laughing at everything going on....  iam just throws a vote on you for no reason yesterday.. and today says he knows for sure you are a townie.

I know I could be completely wrong but if you have anything to defend this I'm listening.

I have no idea why iamth2 voted for me.  I voted for nyaggie because I thought his posts were shifty. 

First he says he can help.  Is he claiming cop, doctor, or mafia (who you call when you can't call the police)? 

Then, he makes it clear he wants people to know he's the doctor.  Then, he doesn't communicate.  We all know why now, but at the time is seemed sketchy.

You don't have to believe me, just wait until the game is over and you'll see.

Check out my previous post.

Honestly, I can't say that Playergod.  I wasn't 100% that Nyaggie was mafia.  However, I was 100% than I am townie, and I knew myself being voted off wasn't going to kill mafia, so I hate to go Nyaggie. 

Posted by iamthetwo__2 on 7/18/2012 11:05:00 AM (view original):
Check out my previous post.

I still don't get it.  Why vote for someone you feel is safe rather than either vote for who you think is guilty or trying to convince the rest of us to vote for who you think is guilty?  Maybe I'm missing something, so you'll need to explain it to me like I'm 5 years old.  What's the logic behind voting to lynch someone you think is safe?

Posted by iamthetwo__2 on 7/17/2012 8:31:00 PM (view original):
Casey had made the comment that he thought FFB and Mudda.  Now Babcick is pushing for Aggie, who in real life has been with his wife having surgery, and I don't think anyone is that low to use a family emergency to win/play in a game.  FFB said he was here, just laying back and watching---sounds Godfathery to me.  I'm thinking Casey might me headed in the right direction, and I'm going to go along with his original thought process and vote to lynch-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------MUDDA.   

And If you will read everything instead of focusing on my vote you will see I tried to let people know that Casey was the cop and still keep his confidence as he asked. 

It felt to me like Polabonez was leading the charge for this whole Nyaggie thing. 

Posted by csudak on 7/16/2012 5:23:00 PM (view original):
I agree with pola that the doctor and cop need to hook up, but the whole "godfather" role screws up me, whoops, I mean the cop investigating people and assuming they are innocent.  There is no certain innocent in this game.  The only certain thing for the cop is knowing who is just a mafia if they get a guilty.  

 

As far as you pointing the finger at me mudda, thinking that I'm suspicious if I told everyone casey was the cop... That makes no sense either.  I'd have to look back, but I don't think I told ANYONE casey was the cop.... Except for you.

In the above quote, taken from page 5, Casey basically said (or at least bluffed) cop right in the open.  The only person I even talked about this to was Casey himself, when I told him that if he was in fact the cop he really shouldn't put it out there for everyone to see in the open....  

In fact, he never even openly admitted to me he was the cop.  The only person he supossedly admitted it to was iamthetwo, and he waited to come forward until after casey was dead.

So Casey thought I was mafia?  Then why didn't he investigate me?