I am pretty surprised by just how well 1919 Cravath has done for me in mlb89344, a pretty tough $100mil theme league. He has a higher OPS than Ruth. He is not a full timer, and he has garnered quite a few PH appearances. His glove is wack, but his bat more than makes up for it. His totals through 144 team games so far:

Cravath, Gavvy

1919

R

96

253

48

87

30

3

22

76

34

39

2

0

0

.344

.423

.747

1.170

Not a Cy Williams, but for $4.5 million, I've had good power results from the 1911 Fred Luderus. Has HR/100# of 4 vrs. RL HR/1--AB of 2.9. Used him several times in HR+ parks of all stripes and he always seems to do his ting. I like his ..862 contact rte and .327 hit rates

I think Greenberg is really the best bargain HR hitter from the right-handed side of the plate. Cravath might hit more doubles and give you a better OBP and average, but I typically get more homers from Greenberg than any other comparably priced right-hander. That Stargell is quite good as well. I've had him outhomer both '33 and '22 Ruths and Williams on the same teams.

With 30 games in the season $120M, no AAA, theme league:

Ballpark:

PNC Park (HR LF/RF:-1/-1 1B:2 2B:1 3B:-1)

Cy Williams 23 L	CF*	4	100	528	485	15	47	0	.196	.261	.318	6.20M
Gavvy Cravath 15 R	LF*	5	100	529	464	16	77	0	.216	.304	.371	5.20M

Proof that even the best cookies can be awful!

Cravath, Gavvy 1919

Is a monster I have had 43hr and 113rbi from this low pa 302 guy.In a +1/+1 hr park.High 20s low 30s all the time.

'15 Gavvy Cravath in a $95M Franchise Twist League ...

.307 49 HRs and 137 RBIs ... after only 136 games at Baker Bowl

Anyone have any thoughts on the 1914 Gavvy Cravath? Not just as far as HR hitting goes, but just in general? He's a little bit less expensive and the numbers arent too far off from the 1915 version.

Through 72 games in an $80 MM OL at Yankee Stadium III, Cy Williams outslugging Babe Ruth--

Babe Ruth 32 L	LF*	3	95	322	252	32	80	0	.325	.466	.734	7.32M
Cy Williams 23 L	RF*	4	99	316	276	39	100	0	.319	.405	.768	6.20M

One of my last teams before taking a break won 114 games and got WC, was called bloop single and we hit about 300 HR and gave up 8 i think in AFC 110 mil league. my line up was

Player HR
1993 Phillips 11
1930 Klein 40
1938 Greenberg 49
1930 H. Wilson 45
1924 C. Williams 55
1989 HoJo 32
1954 Mathews 35
1962 Buck Rodgers 12

And Pitchers took care of about 20.
Averages were great too. Lost in the WS i think in 4 or 5 games, But was by far my most fun team to play with.

Quote: Originally posted by raiderguy8 on 6/05/2010Anyone have any thoughts on the 1914 Gavvy Cravath? Not just as far as HR hitting goes, but just in general? He's a little bit less expensive and the numbers arent too far off from the 1915 version.

Half way throw 81 games @ Yankees #2 0/0HR park

1914 Gavvy AVG .301 obp.387 SLG.513 OPS .900 84 HIT 12 DOUBLE 4 TRIPLES 12HR 68 RBI

Through 77 games in an $80 MM OL at Yankee Stadium III. The numbers speak for themselves --

Babe Ruth 32 L	LF*	3	95	344	270	34	83	0	.315	.456	.719	7.32M
Cy Williams 23 L	RF*	4	99	338	295	44	111	0	.319	.405	.790	6.20M

Quote: Originally posted by jammiesworld on 6/06/2010

Quote: Originally posted by raiderguy8 on 6/05/2010Anyone have any thoughts on the 1914 Gavvy Cravath? Not just as far as HR hitting goes, but just in general? He's a little bit less expensive and the numbers arent too far off from the 1915 version.

Half way throw 81 games @ Yankees #2 0/0HR park

1914 Gavvy AVG .301 obp.387 SLG.513 OPS .900 84 HIT 12 DOUBLE 4 TRIPLES 12HR 68 RBI

Thanks for the response!

I have had really strong Homer and RBI seasons from 1922 Tilly Walker (for $4.9mil). He also can play all 162 games without getting fatigued. He is amianstay on my teams that play in HR parks (e.g. Atlanta)

Tilly Walkers performance history shows an average performance of 40+HRs and 130+ RBIs -- very solid in my opinion.

Quote: Originally Posted By gbonini on 6/10/2010I have had really strong Homer and RBI seasons from 1922 Tilly Walker (for $4.9mil). He also can play all 162 games without getting fatigued. He is amianstay on my teams that play in HR parks (e.g. Atlanta

he is a good one.