Recently put a Silver King team in. If you're interested in following along, it's MLB112194

So far:
- Team is 10-7
- King has 61.1 IP and a 7-2 record in 13 appearances
- On pace for only 584 IP but I am expecting his pace to accelerate as the season progresses based on how he is being used

Okay, ozomatli, you inspired to give Silver one more try.  I'm going all in this time -- home park is Coors!  

I think stats were not kept very well back in the day of Silver King. I don't believe he really threw 700 IP.

Posted by cwillis802 on 11/18/2015 9:12:00 PM (view original):
I think stats were not kept very well back in the day of Silver King. I don't believe he really threw 700 IP.

He didnt.  He threw 584.  But, because they only played 137 or so games, the IP are pro-rated to a 162 game season, hence the higher IP total.  

Right. I kind of doubt he threw 584 too tho.

I believe some of his pitches were underhand , slow pitch

Posted by crazystengel on 11/14/2015 12:09:00 AM (view original):
Okay, ozomatli, you inspired to give Silver one more try.  I'm going all in this time -- home park is Coors!  

5 games, and 3 Silver starts, into the season, and I think the Wins record is already out of reach.  We lost Silver's first start 6-5, won his second, and in the third he pitched 8 shutout innings -- in Coors -- and got a no-decision.  1-1 after 3 starts...

Posted by cwillis802 on 11/18/2015 9:34:00 PM (view original):
Right. I kind of doubt he threw 584 too tho.

I think this is better documented than you think.  Official stat tracking was a little more sketchy at the time, but these things have been reviewed by modern baseball historians.  One thing you could count on in the 1880s were fairly thorough newspaper writeups on all of the games, so we have documentation.  It's possible the numbers are off by a few outs, but there's no way it's off by tens or hundreds of innings.

Posted by crazystengel on 11/20/2015 1:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by crazystengel on 11/14/2015 12:09:00 AM (view original):
Okay, ozomatli, you inspired to give Silver one more try.  I'm going all in this time -- home park is Coors!  

5 games, and 3 Silver starts, into the season, and I think the Wins record is already out of reach.  We lost Silver's first start 6-5, won his second, and in the third he pitched 8 shutout innings -- in Coors -- and got a no-decision.  1-1 after 3 starts...

Are you using him exclusively as a starter? I've been starting him lately and will probably continue to do so on and off, but he's equally a reliever for me. The wins record is out of reach for us, too, but I'd think that's a more likely way to get the record.

Unfortunately, I have no decent pitchers I could start and have Silver King relieve for the win -- I went with the dregs of SLB pitching so I could have an excellent part-time offense to support Silver's starts.  

What I will do, since there are a couple of teams in this particular OL that seem (how to put this diplomatically?) god-awful, is give Silver some strategic tired starts in the hopes of getting him some cheapo wins.

I don't have the stats with me (they're at home in an old-timey printout) but I used King for 82 complete games in an open league recently. I think he won 56 but the rest of the staff only 29 and we missed the playoffs. He was at 100 for every start. His stamina was usually in the 70's after starting, else I would have tried back-to-back starts. (I did do that once, using the All-Star break to restore him to 100.) I had hoped that as the season wore on he would be at 80+ or even 90 after pitching but it never happened.

I had him on 1/1 with no pitch limit and no substitutions (all other pitchers were on "rest" when he started and his PH/PR options were turned off). He was dominant, but as you would expect he got tattooed in extra innings a few times when he got tired. His innings were more than 738 since extra innings outnumbered lost ninth innings in road game losses.

I'm sure many posters here remember the "Superman" era when you could get him to near 1,000 by having him go 5 or more innings out of the pen every game. Some players used other pitchers, finding that you could greatly exceed RL IP/162 by using pitchers this way. The fix for that added "tired from recent game activity" and "appearing in XX% of games" to pitching fatigue.

I used the Long A strat with an A-squad/B-squad type of team.

Update on Silver King

103 games in, team is comfortably leading the division at 59-44

Silver has been used both as a starter and reliever. 59 appearances, 402 IP (on pace for somewhere in the 600's). Probably could have relied more heavily on him but haven't really needed to.

Anyway, he's 33-14. Should get to about 50-55 wins

My Silver King has had 37 starts in 68 games, and he's 28-5.  So far he's started 5 games tired, % in the 70s, and went 3-0 in those games. He's on pace for 733 IP.  We're in a weak division and at 37-31 lead it by 3 games.  

Silver King final update:

Pitcher	Role	%	G	W-L	SV	IP	ERA	OAV	WHIP	K/9	BB/9	$
Silver King '88 (R)		74 (100)	88	50-23	0	644.1	3.07	.258	1.21	2.26	1.61	29.12M

Team won the division with 93 wins and lost in the Division Series to a 114 win juggernaut. A somewhat successful experiment but nothing extraordinary. I don't think I'd use him again in an OL.