Well that certainly answers the question from the other thread, "which team's fans will be most obnoxious if they win the game?"

Ha!  If you say so.  Just tired of all the Pats hate.  It's only hate because of the teams success.

Where are all the Falcons cheater threads?  Seriously. 

When you cheat, and it doesn't work, not a ton of people get too riled up. They should get some major fines and a loss of draft picks.

Posted by burnsy483 on 2/5/2015 2:03:00 PM (view original):
When you cheat, and it doesn't work, not a ton of people get too riled up. They should get some major fines and a loss of draft picks.

Yeah....That's the answer.

Posted by 05nomar05 on 2/5/2015 1:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 1:52:00 PM (view original):
They are arguably the most successful over the last 15 or so years.   Best run?  Meh. 

Best run team.  Yes.

Meh.   Quantify it for me.

Hell, I'd start my counter argument with Hernandez.   Guy is living as a lowlife thug and NE gives him a 40m contract.   So either A) they knew nothing or B) didn't care.

Either answer screams "Not best run team". 

Signing a guy who just quit on his team. Bravo.

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Hell, I'd start my counter argument with Hernandez.   Guy is living as a lowlife thug and NE gives him a 40m contract.   So either A) they knew nothing or B) didn't care.

Either answer screams "Not best run team". 

Well, BB listened to Urban Meyer (big mistake...hate that turd).  They screwed the pooch on that one and cut the dude ASAP.  

Again, no losing seasons in 14 years and 6 superbowl appearances with 4 wins.  Best run team in sports.

Posted by The Taint on 2/5/2015 2:34:00 PM (view original):
Signing a guy who just quit on his team. Bravo.

I guess you mean Blount.  Pats had him the season before.  Knew how he worked in their system.  He toes the company line in NE.  Great pick up for real cheap.

Posted by 05nomar05 on 2/5/2015 2:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Hell, I'd start my counter argument with Hernandez.   Guy is living as a lowlife thug and NE gives him a 40m contract.   So either A) they knew nothing or B) didn't care.

Either answer screams "Not best run team". 

Well, BB listened to Urban Meyer (big mistake...hate that turd).  They screwed the pooch on that one and cut the dude ASAP.  

Again, no losing seasons in 14 years and 6 superbowl appearances with 4 wins.  Best run team in sports.

As I said, most successful?  Arguably.   Best run?  Meh.

Can't "screw the pooch" on that level and claim "best run".   

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Hell, I'd start my counter argument with Hernandez.   Guy is living as a lowlife thug and NE gives him a 40m contract.   So either A) they knew nothing or B) didn't care.

Either answer screams "Not best run team". 

Hernandez was a pro-bowler and the contract wasn't guaranteed. They cut him the moment real trouble started. Not seeing how that's evidence of a poorly run team considering the fact that there are criminals on every NFL roster.

Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2015 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 2:30:00 PM (view original):
Hell, I'd start my counter argument with Hernandez.   Guy is living as a lowlife thug and NE gives him a 40m contract.   So either A) they knew nothing or B) didn't care.

Either answer screams "Not best run team". 

Hernandez was a pro-bowler and the contract wasn't guaranteed. They cut him the moment real trouble started. Not seeing how that's evidence of a poorly run team considering the fact that there are criminals on every NFL roster.

It's just mikey being mikey.  Arguing for the sake of it....

Uh, "criminal" is a little different that "murderer of multiple people including a friend".

The guarantee of the contract means a lot of nothing.    Most NFL contracts have little guaranteed money. 


Not knowing one of your stars is living a double life as a lowlife thug is a black mark on the "best run" label.    Even with Vick, he was always in some bit of trouble.  I don't think his dogfighting ring was nearly the shock of Hernandez mowing down people on the street. 

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/5/2015 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Uh, "criminal" is a little different that "murderer of multiple people including a friend".

The guarantee of the contract means a lot of nothing.    Most NFL contracts have little guaranteed money. 


Not knowing one of your stars is living a double life as a lowlife thug is a black mark on the "best run" label.    Even with Vick, he was always in some bit of trouble.  I don't think his dogfighting ring was nearly the shock of Hernandez mowing down people on the street. 

There's your point.  Everyone knew Vick was in "some bit of trouble".  Hernandez toed the line in public and with the team.  Behind closed doors, was something different.  Dude is a sociopath.  Fooled everyone.

The "best run" organization in sports shouldn't have been fooled.    Pull the wool over the Raiders?  Big deal.   They're arguably the worst run.