The Midge52 Draft Season 84 Rosters/Commentary Topic

3) Midge - Steph Curry, Kevin McHale, Artis Gilmore, Bobby Jones, Brandon Clarke, Bogdan Bogdanovich, D’Anthony Melton (chewy score: 58.33)

I also would have chosen Curry at #3. Team strengths will be EFG (2nd highest in league), great DEF, and a bunch of 3's. Weaknesses are Deb, and fouls. I like how Clarke and Melton can defend PG to cover Curry's better than you think but not great defense. The 2nd time I won this league, I used 80-81 Gilmore, but the 72-73 version does have better rebounding and you need it. You drafted good value with McHale when he usually goes 12 picks earlier. Bobby Jones was also good value also going about 12 picks earlier. At first I didn't like the Bogdanovic pick, but if you search for players with 50 or higher DEF, usage over 18, per% over 50, EFG over 60, you'll find 3 curry's and BOGDANOVIC!!! also, to% is pretty nice to boot. Prediction: Elite 8.
Player Season / Name Min
72-73Artis Gilmore 3419
86-87Kevin McHale 3060
15-16Stephen Curry 2700
80-81Bobby Jones 2046
20-21Bogdan Bogdanovic 1487
08-09Jameer Nelson 1309
21-22Brandon Clarke 1246
20-21De'Anthony Melton 1191
19-20Jonathan Isaac 1101
17-18Jordan Bell 809
20-21Tony Bradley 779
09-10Greg Oden 502
Total Midge 19649
3/28/2024 4:25 PM (edited)
4) ronsouth1 - Shaquille O’Neal, Paul George, John Collins, Mel Daniels, Derek Harper, Clyde Drexler, Terrell Brandon (chewy score: 51.5)

pick 4 - 9 are very close in value but Shaq is not who I would have picked. You made a trade and reached for Paul George at #23 but he is more of a mid to late 2nd value for me. Either Garnett, Harden, and Erving were also available at the time you chose Paul George. Also, There is 1 clear top choice for Terrell Brandon and 97-98 is not it. I suppose you were trying to make the money work, but I don't think you needed Drexler. You could have gone with Harper at PG, Paul George at SG, Terrell Brandon backing up both, and chose a SF instead of Drexler int he 6th. Maybe a Siakam could have worked. Anyway, as you built it, your team will be strong in maybe assists and maybe 3's. Otherwise I see some weaknesses compared to the rest of the league in EFG, and Deb. Prediction: Bottom tier.
Player Season / Name Min
99-00Shaquille O'Neal 3163
70-71Mel Daniels 3095
18-19Paul George 2841
86-87Derek Harper 2556
96-97Clyde Drexler 2271
97-98Terrell Brandon 1784
19-20John Collins 1669
92-93Cedric Ceballos 1607
21-22Robert Covington 509
15-16Jeremy Evans 251
08-09Ryan Bowen 219
07-08Theo Ratliff 213
Total ronsouth1 20178
3/28/2024 4:48 PM (edited)
5) riftonapple - Dwight Howard, Scottie Pippen, Jason Kidd, Amare Stoudemire, Marvin Williams, Andrew Bynum, Kenneth Faried (chewy score: 61.1)

Dwight at #5 is ok. Again 4-9 are all very similar in value with different strengths. But I rank Giannis at #4 and Jordan at 5. Good draft all around. You didn't reach and chose the best seasons shown below. I can't remember but I think I slightly prefer 95-96 pippen but 96-97 is very close in value. Y our team strengths are EFG, very clean TO's and decent fouls. You'll also make plenty of 3's. OReb is your only weakness comapred to the rest of the league but with hgih EFG, you won't need to grab as many. I also like that Stoudemire can shift defensively with Dwight Howard. I like Pippen at the SG with an ultra clean, good shooting, good defender in Marvin Williams at SF. Prediction: Elite 8
Player Season / Name Min
96-97Scottie Pippen 3095
10-11Dwight Howard 2935
09-10Jason Kidd 2881
07-08Amare Stoudemire 2681
15-16Marvin Williams 2338
20-21Cameron Payne 1229
17-18Tobias Harris 1105
07-08Andrew Bynum 1009
11-12Brandan Wright 983
20-21Mo Bamba 826
18-19Kenneth Faried 728
11-12Nene Hilario 353
Total riftonapple 20163
3/28/2024 5:07 PM (edited)
6) PBandJ - Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kyrie Irving, Nic Claxton, Bill Russell, Bobby Portis, Alperen Sengun, Deron Williams. (chewy score: 50.58)

I like starting off with Giannis at 6. I like following that up with Kyrie. I like Nic Claxton. So how come if I like the first 3 picks, you have a low chewy score? Your team strengths are assists, 3’s, and decent EFG and DReb. Weaknesses are defense, Fouls , TO, and OReb. Alperen Sengun is not good enough to be on a roster in this format. And my hot take is that Bill Russell doesn’t belong either. His EFG is so bad and TO’s not that clean. His elite defense and rebounding can’t make up for the huge hit to EFG. In a league like this at this cap when you have teams average 55-60 weighted avg efg, he is phasing out of being a good option. Perhaps I think so little of him because I had my worst savage performance when I used Bill Russell recently. Prediction: bottom tier.
Player Season / Name Min Usg%
59-60Bill Russell 3440 15.9
07-08Deron Williams 3059 23.4
20-21Giannis Antetokounmpo 2293 32.5
22-23Nic Claxton 2271 15.6
22-23Kyrie Irving 2241 28.9
22-23Alperen Sengun 2171 21.5
21-22Bobby Portis 2028 21.3
06-07J.R. Smith 1473 23.2
22-23Usman Garuba 970 10.5
22-23Davis Bertans 492 16.3
21-22Alfonzo McKinnie 206 15.3
21-22Joe Wieskamp 205 13.1
Total PBandJ 20849 107.7
3/28/2024 6:56 PM (edited)
7) uptowngbv - Michael Jordan, Karl-Anthony Towns, Shawn Marion, Zion Williamson, Joakim Noah, Marcus Smart, Moritz Wagner (chewy score: 55.67)

I like starting off with Michael Jordan. As long as you play him at PG and it looks like you are. Marion is 98% at SG so I assume that’s where you’ll play him towns needs a good defender that can switch with him Noah does have 100 def but I don’t like his EFG and rebounding isn’t that great I much rather prefer using Noah’s 11-12 season at SF and then you can parlay the rebounding advantage into something better.
Your team strengths are low TO, and decent DReb. Weaknesses are too many fouls and defense relative to the average of the rest of the league. Jordan will need to carry this team. Prediction: On the playoff bubble
Player Season / Name Min
89-90Michael Jordan 3197
06-07Shawn Marion 3007
17-18Karl-Anthony Towns 2918
13-14Joakim Noah 2820
20-21Zion Williamson 2308
18-19Marcus Smart 2200
21-22Moritz Wagner 960
14-15Terrence Jones 889
09-10Joel Przybilla 681
96-97Scott Brooks 251
13-14Jannero Pargo 242
20-21Dewayne Dedmon 240
Total uptowngbv 19713
3/28/2024 7:31 PM (edited)
8) dakjd901 - Nikola Jokic, Jrue Holiday, Walker Kessler, Klay Thompson, Jarred Vanderbilt, Ja Morant, John Henson (chewy score: 53.75)

I like the Jokic and Kessler pairing. They complement each other nicely especially defensively. I love using Holiday at PG with his great efg and elite defense. I like Jarred Vanderbilt at SG. I like Henson at SF. I don’t like Klay and Anunoby because they basically just shoot 3’s at a good efg but their lack of rebounding really hurts the teams overall chewy score. Team strengths are EFG and 3’s, but weaknesses are DReb and defense relative to the rest of the league. Prediction: bottom tier

Player Season / Name Min
21-22Nikola Jokic 2476
14-15Klay Thompson 2455
22-23O.G. Anunoby 2386
20-21Jrue Holiday 2172
21-22Ja Morant 1889
21-22Jarred Vanderbilt 1880
21-22P.J. Washington 1768
22-23Walker Kessler 1703
15-16Ed Davis 1684
14-15John Henson 1228
19-20James Johnson 749
09-10Greg Oden 502
Total dakjd901 20892
3/28/2024 8:02 PM (edited)
9) gerryred - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Clint Capela, Larry Nance, Brent Barry, Jakob Poeltl, Mike Conley, JaMychal Green. (chewy score: 59.57)

Kareems value has been declining probably because he he can really only defend 1 position and doesn’t have the flexibility to switch with a poor defender. But I think he can be a key component to win in this league. I like the Capela pick, I like Nance too. Both are ultra clean with TO’s. Team strengths will be EFG, TO’s and fouls. The only weakness could be the backcourt defense. Prediction: Playoffs, 1st rd exit.
Player Season / Name Min
71-72Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3583
01-02Brent Barry 3040
91-92Larry Nance 2880
16-17Mike Conley 2292
20-21Clint Capela 2162
22-23Jakob Poeltl 1906
18-19JaMychal Green 1371
09-10Rodrigue Beaubois 700
22-23Nickeil Alexander-Walker 528
21-22Robert Covington 509
18-19Avery Bradley 442
20-21Rajon Rondo 420
Total gerryred 19833
3/28/2024 8:27 PM (edited)
10) 24kpyrite - Kevin Durant, Magic Johnson, Derrick Favors, Bob McAdoo, A.C. Green, Michael Cooper, James Worthy (chewy score: 57.5)

Did you just get through watching a Laker documentary? I was scratching my head with the AC Green, cooper and worthy picks but maybe you’ll make it work. I like Durant, Favors, and even Mcadoo. Magic scarred me after a bad savage performance. Team strengths are low TO’s and fouls but could struggle in rebounding. That’s what happens when you use Green and Worthy at PF and SF. In rd 5 I would’ve preferred going with Parish. But otherwise you had a good draft early on at least. Mcadoo didn’t get drafted in the previous 52 draft somehow but he deserved to be taken about where you drafted him. Prediction: in the playoffs.
Player Season / Name Min
73-74Bob McAdoo 3185
89-90Magic Johnson 2937
88-89A.C. Green 2510
85-86James Worthy 2454
86-87Michael Cooper 2253
16-17Kevin Durant 2070
18-19Derrick Favors 1766
18-19Thomas Bryant 1496
22-23Kris Dunn 568
93-94Greg Kite 309
10-11Steve Novak 215
05-06Ha Seung-Jin 213
Total 24kpyrite 19976
3/28/2024 8:39 PM (edited)
12) redbooda - Larry Bird, Elton Brand, Jerry West, Walt Frazier, Desmond Bane, Emeka Okafor, Jalen Duren (chewy Score: 47.5)

I’ll try to be as nice as possible. Larry bird is more of a late rd 1 pick not 12th overall. If you love bird, you can always trade down and get more value in later rounds. I’d prefer David Robinson, Karl Malone, Gobert, C Paul, James Harden, and D Jordan. You followed Bird up with Brand who I see as a 3rd value. You kept the old school vibes going with Jerry West and Walt Frazier. They play good defense but their EFG isn’t good enough to be successful in this league. Elton Brand has the most value playing SF, not PF. Rebounding and EFG will be below the league average. I do like Desmond Bane though. He is a better rebounding CJ McCollum with a few more TOs. Prediction: bottom tier
Player Season / Name Min
84-85Larry Bird 3161
05-06Elton Brand 3096
69-70Walt Frazier 3040
70-71Jerry West 2845
06-07Emeka Okafor 2330
22-23Desmond Bane 1841
22-23Jalen Duren 1670
22-23Luke Kennard 1315
22-23Damian Jones 301
22-23Terry Taylor 228
82-83Kevin Porter 210
91-92Jeff Ruland 209
Total redbooda 20246
3/28/2024 8:48 PM (edited)
13) raggedclaws - Rudy Gobert, Jimmy Butler, Christian Wood, Shawn Kemp, Anfernee Hardaway, Kristaps Porzingis, Larry Sanders (chewy score: 62.5)

ragged is showing why he is a top owner on this site. I love Gobert, Jimmy Butler, and C Wood. I know I talk about EFG but butler is more about True shooting percentage. With defenses so strong, every players efg will be lower than expected. But butler has good free throw shooting, which is why he is a good pick in this league. No defensive impact on free throws. I am curious about using kenps 93-94 season over 95-96. Strengths are defense, OReb and 3’s. Weaknesses are fouls and ast %. Prediction: Final 4.

Player Season / Name Min
95-96Anfernee Hardaway 3015
93-94Shawn Kemp 2597
18-19Rudy Gobert 2577
96-97Bo Outlaw 2195
22-23Jimmy Butler 2138
22-23Kristaps Porzingis 2120
12-13Larry Sanders 1937
22-23Christian Wood 1738
18-19Robert Covington 440
05-06Antoine Wright 369
93-94Greg Kite 309
07-08Steve Novak 266
Total raggedclaws 19701
3/28/2024 8:58 PM (edited)
Min Usg% EFG% OReb DReb Ast% TO Fouls DEF 3PM Chewy Score
Total longtallbrad 20404 110.8 54.6 32.9 100.6 78.7 17.5 20.5 80.2 547 59.75
Total Midge 19649 110.2 59.2 37.7 87.2 60.9 16.3 21.0 77.8 793 58.33
Total steelers821 19786 108.7 53.9 49.0 102.9 66.2 16.3 19.4 78.0 652 66.50
Total berkelon 19616 118.1 56.3 37.5 94.7 62.6 16.2 19.4 75.6 719 57.00
Total raggedclaws 19701 107.9 56.6 41.5 93.3 57.7 15.0 21.6 82.7 433 62.50
Total samuelyork93 20357 109.2 55.9 36.0 97.1 73.8 14.7 20.1 67.3 562 55.00
Total chewy3344 19653 113.1 55.1 36.2 91.3 64.4 14.5 18.5 85.2 562 64.67
Total jethroeg 20221 119.2 53.4 35.5 84.0 59.6 19.7 22.3 81.7 399 42.33
Total kammeyer 19870 108.2 55.4 42.3 99.9 69.7 16.4 20.2 75.4 316 61.17
Total dh555 19972 115.8 56.8 33.6 93.1 57.9 14.9 19.3 78.7 473 60.08
Total ronsouth1 20178 120.4 54.5 36.4 87.5 69.6 15.8 19.5 73.8 645 51.50
Total redbooda 20246 113.6 54.9 32.0 79.7 70.4 16.8 18.7 75.2 502 47.50
Total uptowngbv 19713 113.4 56.1 35.9 94.7 64.1 14.8 21.1 74.3 540 55.67
Total gerryred 19833 107.5 57.8 38.4 92.6 64.1 14.6 18.9 70.4 592 59.57
Total PBandJ 20849 107.7 56.5 34.0 94.6 72.0 16.1 20.8 69.1 751 50.58
Total dontburnearl 20248 104.4 58.4 42.8 97.6 57.7 16.1 21.3 69.1 601 54.25
Total seapilots 19581 105.7 59.1 36.3 95.0 89.4 18.0 16.0 72.5 763 67.75
Total dakjd901 (2) 20557 107.6 56.3 32.3 80.6 64.8 15.4 21.9 83.9 598 51.25
Total jackedjamie 20180 108.4 59.3 34.8 82.7 54.5 13.5 17.9 69.4 832 56.00
Total riftonapple 20163 109.3 57.2 33.9 94.2 62.1 14.6 19.2 75.6 695 61.10
Total ty84moss 19922 111.4 56.0 43.1 100.5 62.5 15.3 19.8 72.6 784 61.08
Total 24kpyrite 19976 106.6 56.1 33.9 86.7 66.3 14.9 18.8 76.4 431 57.50
Total copernicus 20245 98.0 57.4 37.5 97.2 76.7 13.7 20.1 68.5 654 57.75
Total dakjd901 20892 106.6 58.0 36.0 88.3 62.8 15.7 20.1 72.1 846 53.75
3/28/2024 4:27 PM (edited)
Thanks Chewy! You do TO48 not TO% because of how you pull stats right?

your 85 defense has gotta be one of the best in the 52 in a while. Also seapilots getting Stockton and wilt is wild. Perimeter defense will be probably hurt him tho.

also how did jethro end up with the best chewy score? I don’t think the stats you have would agree.
3/26/2024 9:08 PM
Chewy told me these are just placeholders and he will add write ups when he can.
3/26/2024 9:33 PM
Posted by steelers821 on 3/26/2024 9:08:00 PM (view original):
Thanks Chewy! You do TO48 not TO% because of how you pull stats right?

your 85 defense has gotta be one of the best in the 52 in a while. Also seapilots getting Stockton and wilt is wild. Perimeter defense will be probably hurt him tho.

also how did jethro end up with the best chewy score? I don’t think the stats you have would agree.
Yes I show TOp48 because in can’t “scrape” the table that shows to%.

Jethro’s score is fixed and my defense is nice but I wish I hadn’t fallen in love with having 100 defense at 4 positions. It looks cool on paper but I’ve never seen it payoff to justify going for it.
3/26/2024 9:56 PM
I wonder if teams that go for too many great defenders get burned by committing too many fouls. It looks like chewy has that under control. His team looks scary to me.
3/26/2024 10:37 PM
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