This is an interesting progressive with lots of superstars and the Houston franchise is available. The league started in 1985 and has a stable of great owners. The rules are below. We just finished the 2009 season and you can claim Houston for the 2010 season. Each team has some great parts and this is a great time to join the league as you get to add new twists to the team. I will provide a FREE team for one season (via gift certificate) as long as you commit to playing a minimum of five seasons.

Dannino is taking over as commissioner and I am helping transition into the 2010 season, so that has resulted in more openings. You can take a look around the league forum is you want, just let dannino or me know.

Houston (You name the team) has some good parts and some up and coming talent and a core of decent pitching. They have a core of Lance Berkman, 2022 Jose Altuve, Evan Longoria, Bobby Abreu, 75 Larry Dierker, 77 Joe Niekro, Wandy Rodriguez, Charlie Morton, and AJ Burnett. Also, key rookies coming up for Houston are Jose Altuve, JD Martinez, Jonathan Villar, George Springer, Carlos Correa, Dallas Keuchel, and Lance McCullers. In 2010, they add two twists from the 1990 Houston Astros and two twists from the 1965 Houston Astros. This includes some excellent options- 1990- Mike Scott, Luis Gonzalez, Craig Biggio among others while 1965 has Robin Roberts, Joe Morgan and Jimmy Wynn among others. For twists, you pick two from each season and choose which year to start them and they progress one year at a time with the rest of the team. You are able to keep the past twists also (Altuve, Dierker, Niekro). This is a very interesting league with lots of options and trading potential. Full roster below.

Chicago White Sox (You name the team) has outstanding pitching and some up and coming talent. They have a core of Miguel Cabrera, Prince Fielder, 85 Brian Downing, 72 Jim Kaat, Roy Halladay, Zach Greinke, Mark Buehrle, Josh Beckett, Jordan Zimmerman. Also, they have some decent rookie classes including Chris Sale. In 2010, they add two twists from the 1990 franchise team and two twists from the 1965 franchise team too. This includes some excellent options- 1990- Frank Thomas, Carlton Fisk or Sammy Sosa among others while 1965 has Hoyt Wihelm and Tommy John among others. For twists, you pick two from each season and choose which year to start them and they progress one year at a time with the rest of the team. You are able to keep the past twists also (72 Kaat). Full roster below.

The general concept is the league started with the 1985 season as a franchise league with a twist. Each franchise could twist two players from 1985 plus two players from their 1970 franchise teams and two players from their 2000 franchise team. For example, the Yankees twisted Clemens, Phil Niekro, Derek Jeter, etc. All of the twists progress one year at a time with the rest of the players.

A highlight of the rules is below. The key rules that makes this league unique are the rules related to future/past/twist players. Send me a sitemail if you have any questions (although I am having sitemail issues). The next twist is the 2010 season (coming up), so a great time to join

RULES

• Rights to rookies: The rights to rookie players belong to the team which he first has WIS eligibility. For example, Charlie Hayes is a rookie in WIS in 1989 and shows up under both Philadelphia and San Francisco. However, his first WIS eligibility season was with Philadelphia as his SF season was a combined season (he only had 5 at bats with SF then was was traded to Philadelphia).
• Future/Past/Twist players: These player progress one year at a time. Your players from the future will disappear when you reach their rookie season (If they come up with your team only). Example-say I'm the Braves, and I bring back Chipper, if he is still playing, when you run into his rookie year in 1995, you must re start him as a rookie and lose the other Chipper. But if you're NYY and bring back Clemens, it won't matter when he comes up as a rookie with Boston, because he won't bump into himself. In the Chipper example given above, the Braves could trade Chipper in 1994 to get some value prior to bumping into himself.
• Future/Past players in the 2010 and 2020 season: Before the 2010 season, you will go back to your team's 1965 season and grab 2 more guys, bring them back and go back to the 1990 season and grab 2 guys from there as well, and bring them all back to 2010. You can again start any of them at any point in time in their career and advance one year at a time. Before the 2020 season, you will be able to bring back two players from your team's rosters in 1980 and 1995. These players have the same limitation as before, so choose carefully.
• Clones: Clones are permitted in the league, but not on the same team. This is implied as noted above. As a point of clarification, you cannot trade to make clones or create a clone as a result of a trade. An example here is if the Yankees picked Arod in the 94 draft. They could not then twist him from their 2015 team and have a clone on the same team.

The Basics

No WW
DH For all teams
4 AAA players will be drafted and may be used and may also be keepers in future seasons. WIS generated AAA are not permitted to be used.
Full or partial player seasons may be used.

The franchises we draft rookies from are:
Milwaukee
KC
Toronto
Seattle
Washington
San Diego
Colorado
Florida
Arizona
Tampa

Houston potential keepers:
26 proposed keepers below, so you will have to make some cut(s).

Also, Altuve is a rookie in 2011 and you cannot have clones on the same team (but they are allowed in the league). As such, you may want to trade the current twisted Altuve to get some value out of him. Otherwise, you will have to cut the 2023 twisted version to make room for the rookie Altuve.

Keepers
Proposed new twists to add (count as keepers). You can twist who you want, it doesn't have to be these players.
1965
1965 Jimmy Wynn
1950 Robin Roberts

1990
1981 Mike Scott
1991 Craig Biggio

C Carlos Ruiz
1b Lance Berkman
1b Billy Butler
1b Jose Altuve (2022)
3B Evan Longoria
3b Kevin Kouzmanoff
SS Rafael Furcal
SS Alcides Escobar
OF Bobby Abreu
OF Hunter Pence
OF Dexter Fowler
OF Chris B Young

P Larry Dierker (1975)
P Jair Jurrjens
P AJ Burnett
P Wandy Rodriguez
P Jon Garland
P Joe Smith
P Charlie Morton
P Fernando Rodney
P Brad Lidge
P Joe Niekro (1977)

Ir-

Cuts- Ross Ohlendorf, John Lannan, Fernando Rodney, jeremy Affeldt, Bobby Jenks, Kazuo Matsui, Jack Cust, Jason Kendall

Chicago Cubs proposed keepers:
27 proposed keepers below, so you will have to make some cut(s).

Keepers
Proposed new twists to add (count as keepers). You can twist who you want, it doesn't have to be these players.
1965
1954 Ernie Banks
1963 Ron Santo

1990
1988 Greg Maddux
1982 Ryne Sandberg

C AJ Pierzynski
C Geovany Soto
2b Ryne Sandberg (1982)
3b Adrian Beltre (2008)
3b Chase Headley
3b Jose Lopez
3b Ron Santo (1963)
SS JJ Hardy
SS Ernie Banks (1954)
SS Starlin Castro
OF Franklin Gutierrez
OF Melky Cabrera
OF Kosuke Fukudome
OF Jose Bautista
OF Tyler Colvin

P Greg Maddux (1988)
P Jon Lester (2018)
P Edwin Jackson
P Jamie Moyer
P Randy Wells
P Matt Thornton
P Rafael Soriano
P Guillermo Mota
P Danys Baez
P Leo Nunez
P Joe Thatcher

Ir- Rick Reuschel (82), Rich Hill, Jeff Samardzija

Cuts- DeRosa, Rowand, Randy Winn, Carloz Zambrano

Chicago White Sox proposed keepers:
26 proposed keepers below, so you will have to make some cut(s).

Keepers
Proposed new twists to add (count as keepers). You can twist who you want, it doesn't have to be these players.
1965
1965 Tommy John
1958 Hoyt Wilhelm

1990
1991 Frank Thomas
1972 Carlton Fisk

C Carlton Fisk (1972)
C John Buck
C Chris Iannetta
1b Frank Thomas (1991)
1b Prince Fielder
1b Miguel Cabrera
2b Gordon Beckham
2b Adam Kennedy
3b Dayan Viciedo
SS Alexei Ramirez
OF Brian Downing (1985)
OF Ryan Roberts
OF Carlos Gomez

P Tommy John (1965)
P Jim Kaat (1972)
P Hoyt Wilhelm (1958)
P Roy Halladay
P Mark Buerhle
P Zach Greinke
P Josh Beckett
P John Danks
P JA Happ
P Jordan Zimmerman
P Joakim Soria
P Daniel Hudson
P Sergio Santos


Ir- Jose Abreu, Brandon McCarthy

Cuts- Mike Cameron, Nick Johnson, Jake Fox, Julio Lugo, Garciaparra, Joel Piniero

Detroit
Proposed keepers, 22 keepers, but you choose who you want to keep.

Proposed new twists to add:
1990
Alan Tramell (1979)
Frank Tanana (1974)

1965
Al Kaline (1955)
Mickey Lolich (1964)

With Lolich, you could keep the 1974 version on your roster below, but you would need to pick a different twist. Other options include Denny McLain, Norm Cash, and Willie Horton. You choose.

C Bill Freehan (1974)
1b Miguel Cabrera (2014)
3b Alex Rodriguez
SS Stephen Drew
SS Jamey Carroll
SS Craig Counsell
SS Alan Trammell (1979)
OF Carl Crawford
OF Curtis Granderson
OF Carlos Lee
OF Austin Jackson
OF Jeff Francouer
OF Al Kaline (1955)

P Justin Verlander
P Zack Greinke (2018)
P Javier Vazquez
P Rick Porcello
P Luke Gregorson
P Randy Choate
P Frank Tanana (1974)
P Mickey Lolich (1964)

Cuts- Fernando Tatis, Ryan Garko, Alex Cora, Armando Galaragga

I will take the Cubs

Posted by jgaleo062066 on 2/28/2024 12:30:00 AM (view original):
I will take the Cubs

Welcome, jgaleo. Cubs are off the table.

Getting ready to get this one going. Jump in now while you can control 4 new twists. All 3 rosters have a chance to compete right away, especially with the twists. Each roster can add at least two Hall of Famers.

I’ll take Det

Detroit is off the board. Chicago White Sox (great pitching plus some stud hitting) and Houston (great depth across the board) are both still available.

Chicago White Sox also off the board. Houston is still available.

Just started the draft. Still time to adjust keepers/new twists.

I'll try Houston again. Back from long hiatus :)

Posted by yates33 on 3/18/2024 4:15:00 PM (view original):
I'll try Houston again. Back from long hiatus :)

welcome back. We'll get you access to the League Forum shortly.