Posted by psap on 6/17/2014 8:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by polabonez on 6/17/2014 7:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by coachbug on 6/17/2014 6:17:00 PM (view original):
What was the best move you made in this game and what was the worst move you made ?
I won't know for sure until I read the letters... But if our theory was correct that Csudak was in with all the people we presumed, than I think that was probably the move that got me here. I won't take all the credit there were a few of us that were in involved but I believe horvie and I were the prime motivators of that.
I also think the idol that allowed the AR setup was pretty big. It seems forever ago but having a few "underachieving" teams set up in the amazing race might be the reason I and many of the jury are here.
Looking back I think the worst move was keeping geos on the wildpike vote Horvie and I were going to vote him out early since we hadn't even spoken to him, and Psap wanted us to keep him so he had a major alliance. Trusting Psap led to horvies downfall, which is something I would have liked to prevent because obviously we played most of the game together.
You (pola) never had the option to save wildpike. I already was working closely with coachbug, and thus hardknox as well. Once i swapped places with geos using my idol, horvie then proposed a 4 way alliance of himself, me, pola and geos as the assumption was that geos was my closest ally as the thought was that i was a free agent.
Once csudak pulled me down, which returned geos as the nominee, wildpike was going home which is why i played that idol in the first place. There were indications that wildpike had been cooperating with pola earlier in the game in the idol search, and i didn't know how deep the partnership went and i didn't want to wait to find out. So when csudak played his idol to nullify mine, that meant that for csudak to survive, geos was going to have to go home. He didn't, so csudak's move (which was probably a neccessity anyways, sent him home next round if he or ahrens didn't win the next HOH. So that was an easy vote to knock off wildpike with my vote, coachbug's, hardknox's, and the newly acquired partners of horvie and pola -- the only way to save wildpike was if pola and horvie were going to break that newly formed agreement right off the bat.
I sold it hard that csudak (and ahrens to a lesser degree) were playing both sides. Horvie jumped all over that because that is what he suspected as well. Once you (pola) vouched for me to horvie, it was a done deal. Csudak and ahrens were painted as the risks, and csudak put himself to the head of the target line for playing his idol that nullified mine. It was also probably the truth -- i think csudak was playing both sides. It was also important to me to get rid of both wildpike and csudak before they reached the jury because i did not think either would ever vote for me if I made the final - which also factored in putting myself up for nomination as i knew i had enough support from the players left in the game at the time.
That was where the numbers turned for good and the point from which i controlled the game until i was eliminated. It left ahrens, thebish, and usfbully scrambling for survival for the next few rounds.
Horvie's downfall was that he was just late to the game with me. There were already many people in line in front of him and i was just waiting for the moment to take him out as i wanted to eliminate all of pola's allies so pola would be forced to cooperate with me without having any decision making power. Pola won challenges but made few if any moves in the BB stage. He was strictly a passenger and made no power moves, nor had much of an ability to do so.
I'm going to admit that I didn't read all this. Because as usual im drunk. But I caught some of it. And since Psap for some reason hates me anyways and already voted against me, I'll just say this:
I was involved more than I let off to be for your ousting. As a matter of fact, after bish and I exchanged sitemails about everything when he was HOH but being careful not to name you just in case the other was involved too much, him and I came to an agreement that no matter what I was voting you.
I also text Ahrens and tipped him off that he was coming after you... Making sure he had bish on his side and could use geos against you. And he told me he already had. Long before nominations were made.
That was my sweet revenge for horvie. And I knew I was still playing straight with Ahrens, coach, and bish. (Hadn't had a conversation with geos at this point)
You were the one who wasn't playing it straight at this point, and everybody knew it.
I was planning on bringing this up after the game. Not because I expected your vote... But because I didn't want to take anything away from Ahrens move (which was brilliantly played by the time I tipped him off)But to think that you had any control of the votes is way off.
No offense to coachbug, but we all know given the involvement of the game if I had brought him to the final with me there wouldn't have been many questions over who played better. There may have only been anti-pola votes.
I'm used to those. But Matt knows it wasn't a deal specifically that got him here... It's the fact that I love this game so much I like the challenge.
But challenging me on not being involved from start to finish..... Isn't a good argument.
I play hard. But I play for the love of this game. And if I lose to Ahrens I promise I'll be as happy as if I won.
For the game.