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Seriously, get over yourself todd.

The guy makes one tweet in a sea of them in response to this disaster letting people know what he's doing, and OBVIOUSLY he's "grandstanding" and "self-promoting."  Glad to know you're that great a judge of intent.

And obviously okay with grandstanding and self-promoting as long as you put enough money behind it...

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AGAIN, I'd argue he's creating awareness and encouraging others to donate as well.  

In your eyes, he's better off doing nothing.  Which is silly.
5/22/2013 11:22 AM
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Do you tweet every time you give a quarter to a street derelict?  I repeat, I have no problem with a donation.  If you honestly think that Matt Kemp is trying to create awareness about THE LEAD STORY ON THE NEWS with his self-aggrandizing tweet, then fine, I see some value.   More likely, it's his agent or publicist trying to build his public image with pocket change.

Publicizing your own donations is simply trying to buy goodwill.

5/22/2013 11:30 AM
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No. Why would I do that? What good does that serve? There's a difference.  I guarantee that there's at least 1 person who is donating money to this tragedy who otherwise wouldn't, because he's a fan of Matt Kemp.

Again, you think he's better off doing nothing, which is silly.
5/22/2013 11:32 AM
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Here.  You happy now?  Or should he have just donated it and kept his mouth shut?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22285189/matt-kemp-commits-250000-to-oklahoma-relief


5/22/2013 11:36 AM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 5/22/2013 11:33:00 AM (view original):
No. Why would I do that? What good does that serve? There's a difference.  I guarantee that there's at least 1 person who is donating money to this tragedy who otherwise wouldn't, because he's a fan of Matt Kemp.

Again, you think he's better off doing nothing, which is silly.
AGAIN, I didn't say he's better off doing nothing.  I said "Fine, donate some money.  You don't need to tweet about it.  Just do something good without tooting your own horn about it.  It isn't about you anyway."

If I told you that I sent $20 to the RedCross this week, why would you think I told you?

(which, by the way, would be much more than DIAH would send)
5/22/2013 12:06 PM
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I guess Kemp realized that there are a lot of 'tardcomms in the world.

As far as twitter, athletes do dumb ****(as we all do).   But now they can announce their dumb **** to thousands/millions of people without a filter.    I'd say Kemp was sitting there, pouting over sucking, and thought "I'm gonna donate $1000 every time I hit a homer!!!"    And he thought that was a good idea until someone said "Hey, dummy, $1000?   People know what you make per year."  
5/22/2013 12:07 PM
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If I helped Matt Kemp learn a little self-awareness, should I tweet about it?
5/22/2013 12:09 PM
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Posted by toddcommish on 5/22/2013 12:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 5/22/2013 11:33:00 AM (view original):
No. Why would I do that? What good does that serve? There's a difference.  I guarantee that there's at least 1 person who is donating money to this tragedy who otherwise wouldn't, because he's a fan of Matt Kemp.

Again, you think he's better off doing nothing, which is silly.
AGAIN, I didn't say he's better off doing nothing.  I said "Fine, donate some money.  You don't need to tweet about it.  Just do something good without tooting your own horn about it.  It isn't about you anyway."

If I told you that I sent $20 to the RedCross this week, why would you think I told you?

(which, by the way, would be much more than DIAH would send)
Are you Matt Kemp and can create awareness for a cause to millions of people?
5/22/2013 12:24 PM
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I get everyone knows about the tornado, but I'm sure there are people who donated because Matt Kemp did.  So it's a good thing.

FWIW, Kemp has donated $500,000 to charity this year.  That's what we know of.  Take 2.3% of your salary and see if you donated that much to charity this year.  
5/22/2013 12:27 PM
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Ahh, so now we're judging the generosity of our charitable donations by a flat percentage of our income, rather than say, disposable or discretionary income?

Do you have such a flat-rate mentality when it comes to our income-tax system? 

I'd argue that 2.3% of his baseball salary means a lot less to Matt Kemp than 2.3% of my salary does to me.  And I'd be right.

Face it, every time a celebrity gives MONEY, they're spending a resource they don't care about, and they're essentially buying publicity.  In fact, I'd almost guarantee that $25K is a typical night in a "gentleman's club" for most pro athletes. 

That's why TIME given to Make-a-Wish or hospital visits mean more. 

YMMV.
5/22/2013 12:49 PM
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You're right about the % vs gross income.  And maybe he gives more than the 2.3% I know of.  I don't know.

I disagree with your ideas about why celebrities give money to charity.  Maybe I'm naive, but I'd like to think most of the time they give $ to charity for genuine reasons.  I think Kemp is one of those people.  And for what it's worth, Kemp does donate his time to good causes as well.
5/22/2013 12:58 PM
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I, for one, am shocked that toddcomm's phone isn't constantly ringing with celebrities asking him how they should go about making charitible contributions...
5/22/2013 1:05 PM
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Also good to know that the very wealthy don't care about their money.
5/22/2013 1:06 PM
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Well, to be fair, we've see many examples of celebrities/athletes that don't care about their money.    Otherwise, they wouldn't be broke at 40. 
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