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5/31/2013 10:32 AM
The Jays suck because their starting pitching is VASTLY underachieving.  That and injuries.  But if you told me the lowest ERA among their starting pitchers would be 4.91 (and that guys on the DL with a broken head) I would have laughed at you.  I doubt "****** manager" has much to do with anything.
5/31/2013 11:33 AM
I don't think Gibbons is ******. But look at all the injuries Girardi has dealt with in NY - some managers just find a way to get more out of the players they have.
6/1/2013 1:52 PM
So if someone like Girardi or Showalter were managing the Blue Jays, you think the pitchers would pitch better?
6/1/2013 9:25 PM

Maybe.  A manager's job is to put players in a position to succeed.   He has virtually no say in the three run homer in the first but I'd say he has a much bigger say when a starter gives up a three run homer in the 7th.   Do you disagee?

6/24/2013 10:37 AM
GET BACK HERE WOLVIE!!!!!!!
6/29/2013 11:18 PM
It's amazing the difference good starting pitching makes.

For all you Canadians out there, it's like a hot goalie in hockey.

Show my a good manager/coach, and I'll show you a good starting rotation/goalie.

The rest is cosmetic.
6/30/2013 12:28 PM
The O's manager seems to be getting his team to win without a good rotation
6/30/2013 1:37 PM
No, the Os manager is getting his team to win with a good rotation that is overlooked.
Quit being such a homer.
6/30/2013 1:46 PM
Wait - you mean the rotation that's currently 27th in the majors in ERA, 24th in BAA and has allowed the most ER in the majors? Right, they're awesome.
6/30/2013 2:50 PM
HOMER
6/30/2013 8:21 PM
****
7/5/2013 3:43 PM
     The only worthwhile player they got in the off-season is Jose Reyes. And, even here, i have to eonder. As good as he is, the Jays had their 11 wins stteak while hewas out and they keep losing since he's back
7/5/2013 4:21 PM
I'd argue Dickey, Buerhle and Johnson are pretty worthwhile, despite their struggles.  
7/5/2013 5:25 PM
Johnson no. AJ Burnett clone, except not quite as dumb.
7/5/2013 6:14 PM
Posted by deathinahole on 7/5/2013 5:25:00 PM (view original):
Johnson no. AJ Burnett clone, except not quite as dumb.

Uh, no: Burnett's best season is the only one that compares to any of Johnson's.

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