DOMA & Prop 8 Topic

Posted by burnsy483 on 7/10/2013 11:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 10:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 4:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Why do you believe that it's not harmless?  Who is getting harmed by watching?
Ok, I agree with you, merely watching something on a TV, regardless of what it is, is completely harmless.

If you walk into your neighbor's house and his TV is playing child porn, you watching it harms no one. In the same way that the police watch the porn when collecting evidence.

What's your point?
So you go from this post at 11:19am, in which you say that watching child porn is "completely harmless", to a post at 1:29pm in which you say watching child porn is "harmful".

You're just all over the place today, aren't you?

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
I'm more than happy to clarify once you answer whether or not you think watching child porn is harmful.
For the umpteenth time . . . when the topic of discussion is YOUR beliefs and opinions, my opinion is irrelevant.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
Hypothetically, if someones child was subject to child porn, wouldn't the parents and relatives and family friends of said child be hurt knowing that many people are watching?

Make your point.
Analysis FAIL on your part.

How would you know that somebody is watching at any point in time?  I highly doubt the viewer is calling mom and dad on the phone and telling them "Hey, I'm watching your kid's video".
7/11/2013 7:29 AM
I've answered all of your questions. Do you think watching child open is harmful?
7/11/2013 9:17 AM
You have NOT answered all my questions.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
7/11/2013 9:26 AM
LOL.  You've answered his questions, changed your mind, re-answered and then begun your time-tested way of asking the same question over and over again.

Do you need phone a friend before you give your final answer?
7/11/2013 9:27 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/11/2013 9:26:00 AM (view original):
You have NOT answered all my questions.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
Do you think it's harmful? Yes or no.
7/11/2013 9:41 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/11/2013 9:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/11/2013 9:26:00 AM (view original):
You have NOT answered all my questions.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
Do you think it's harmful? Yes or no.
For the umpteenth+1 time, my opinion is irrelevant when we are discussion your beliefs and opinions.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
7/11/2013 9:45 AM
Now you're asking follow up questions. This is a discussion of everyone's opinion. Do you think it's harmful, yes or no?
7/11/2013 9:49 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 5:21:00 PM (view original):
He's trying to argue that something can still be illegal even if it isn't harmful to anyone else. Which is true. Prostitution and recreational drug use are two examples.

He's using child porn instead because if he used prostitution or drug use, I'd say, "you're right, we should go ahead and legalize prostitution and drug use."

The circumstance is so narrow (someone finds child porn, didnt buy it, didnt produce it, only watches it by themselves) that you can't really say it's harmful by itself but it's still illegal and no one would argue that child porn possession should be legal.

To that I say, simple possession should remain illegal because the production of child porn is so harmful that anyone with any association to it, even simple possession, should face legal consequences.

And that's where it differs from gay marriage. Gay marriage isn't harmful, even remotely. Child porn is.
Here is the answer to your questions.
7/11/2013 9:50 AM
That's not the answer to my question.  That's saying that the production of child porn is harmful.  It doesn't answer why you believe (in an abrupt about-face yesterday afternoon from an earlier answer) that watching child porn is harmful.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
7/11/2013 9:54 AM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/11/2013 9:49:00 AM (view original):
Now you're asking follow up questions. This is a discussion of everyone's opinion. Do you think it's harmful, yes or no?
Wrong.  This is an exploration of your opinion, not everyone's opinion.
7/11/2013 9:55 AM

PHONE A FRIEND!!!

ASK THE AUDIENCE!!!!

7/11/2013 9:59 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/11/2013 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/11/2013 9:49:00 AM (view original):
Now you're asking follow up questions. This is a discussion of everyone's opinion. Do you think it's harmful, yes or no?
Wrong.  This is an exploration of your opinion, not everyone's opinion.
Plenty of opinions are involved. Do you think watching child porn is harmful?
7/11/2013 10:14 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/11/2013 6:57:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/10/2013 9:05:00 PM (view original):

He actually found something that qualified under your "Big 3" for allowing damn near anything that would be repulsive to pretty much anyone with a moral bone in their body.   When presented with it, BL has stumbled, mumbled, changed directions and STFU for the last 36 hours.    "Makes people happy", "Allows more personal freedom" and "Doesn't hurt anyone" are bullshit reasons to makes laws.

This.

As for "watching porn = more likely to rape", I'll go back to my "people are capable of something or they are not" belief.    For those who think you're more likely to rape if you watch porn, you are obviously in the camp of "video games/TV/movies cause people to be more violent."   Say that out loud.   If it doesn't sound dumb, I'd suggest you're not very bright.    Maybe a child can be guided by what they see, adults should not.   Children probably shouldn't be watching porn.

You said every decision we make has an effect on society. What effect does someone watching child porn have?
7/11/2013 10:16 AM
ASK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN!!!!!!

7/11/2013 10:17 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 7/11/2013 7:29:00 AM (view original):
Posted by burnsy483 on 7/10/2013 11:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 10:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 4:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 2:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/10/2013 11:19:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 7/10/2013 11:13:00 AM (view original):
Why do you believe that it's not harmless?  Who is getting harmed by watching?
Ok, I agree with you, merely watching something on a TV, regardless of what it is, is completely harmless.

If you walk into your neighbor's house and his TV is playing child porn, you watching it harms no one. In the same way that the police watch the porn when collecting evidence.

What's your point?
So you go from this post at 11:19am, in which you say that watching child porn is "completely harmless", to a post at 1:29pm in which you say watching child porn is "harmful".

You're just all over the place today, aren't you?

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
I'm more than happy to clarify once you answer whether or not you think watching child porn is harmful.
For the umpteenth time . . . when the topic of discussion is YOUR beliefs and opinions, my opinion is irrelevant.

Please explain how watching child porn is harmful?  Who is getting hurt by the act of watching?
Hypothetically, if someones child was subject to child porn, wouldn't the parents and relatives and family friends of said child be hurt knowing that many people are watching?

Make your point.
Analysis FAIL on your part.

How would you know that somebody is watching at any point in time?  I highly doubt the viewer is calling mom and dad on the phone and telling them "Hey, I'm watching your kid's video".
You know people have watched or are watching.  This is one of those people. 
7/11/2013 10:18 AM
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