1/23/2013 11:01 PM
So much for this game being random checkout Florida Atlantic D1aa in stagg and Valdosta State in d-2 Stagg 4 out of the last 5 ... Maybe there randomly winning?
1/24/2013 12:14 AM
I don't think winning at 1AA is random at all, imho. Check out 1AA in Camp:

86 University of Delaware 18-1 superman7515 Southern-Baton Rouge  
85 University of Delaware 17-1 superman7515 Texas Southern  
84 Samford University 18-1 gjd13 Coastal Carolina  
83 University of Richmond 18-1 stingray002 Iona  
82 University of Northern Iowa 19-0 champ83 Richmond  
81 University of Northern Iowa 19-0 champ83 Coastal Carolina  
80 Columbia University 19-0 phatboy4 Richmond  
79 University of Richmond 17-2 stingray002 Columbia  
78 Samford University 19-0 alliem605 Richmond  
77 University of Delaware 17-1 superman7515 San Diego  
76 Duquesne University 19-0 acdogg33 Columbia  
75 University of Richmond 17-2 stingray002 Delaware  
74 Columbia University 17-2 phatboy4 Delaware  
73 Columbia University 17-2 phatboy4 Richmond  
72 University of Richmond 18-1 stingray002 Gardner-Webb  
71 University of Richmond 19-0 stingray002 Southern Utah  
70 Columbia University 19-0 phatboy4 Richmond


Appearances in the NC game since season 70:
Richmond - 10 - stingray002
Columbia - 6 - phatboy4
Delaware - 5 - superman7515
Northern Iowa - 2 - champ83
Coastal Carolina and Samford both made it twice as well but under two different coaches.

So out of the last 34 appearances (winner & loser), 27 have been from the same handful of teams, largely under the same few coaches.
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1/24/2013 1:10 AM
Check out coach badnewz12 at Richmond in Yost:  He has randomly won alot    http://whatifsports.com/gd/TeamProfile/History.aspx?tid=55313
1/24/2013 2:22 PM (edited)
I don't think "dynasties" are determined as much by coaching acumen now as by empty worlds.  It's significantly easier to win an NC now with the worlds devoid of active coaches.  You shouldn't be able to take an all SIM team and win an NC in 4 seasons, but it happens now.
1/24/2013 2:58 PM
Reid your bagging on your own NC.
1/24/2013 4:25 PM
Posted by babcick on 1/24/2013 2:58:00 PM (view original):
Reid your bagging on your own NC.
Not bragging.  Just saddened by how empty the worlds are and how far this game has fallen.  That NC should never happen and didn't happen until the engine went belly up and the worlds emptied.
1/24/2013 9:46 PM
vick12/damauler12 seems to be doing pretty well.  
 http://whatifsports.com/user/profile/?user=vick12
1/25/2013 8:42 AM
I randomly lose a lot...
1/25/2013 10:24 AM
Posted by tsut30 on 1/25/2013 8:42:00 AM (view original):
I randomly lose a lot...
++++++1
1/25/2013 3:38 PM
Curious - how many human coached teams are in those divisions?
1/25/2013 11:06 PM
Posted by teamville on 1/25/2013 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Curious - how many human coached teams are in those divisions?
There are 37 human coaches in Camp D1AA.
1/27/2013 11:46 AM
Posted by shonuff504 on 1/25/2013 11:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by teamville on 1/25/2013 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Curious - how many human coached teams are in those divisions?
There are 37 human coaches in Camp D1AA.
And out of those 37 coaches - 21 have been at their schools for 4 years or less. Which leaves 16 teams with a long term coach - And 32 teams make the playoffs.   And there are the same 6 teams that have been playing in  the NC over the years.... - No kidding.
1/27/2013 12:05 PM
Posted by teamville on 1/27/2013 11:47:00 AM (view original):
Posted by shonuff504 on 1/25/2013 11:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by teamville on 1/25/2013 3:38:00 PM (view original):
Curious - how many human coached teams are in those divisions?
There are 37 human coaches in Camp D1AA.
And out of those 37 coaches - 21 have been at their schools for 4 years or less. Which leaves 16 teams with a long term coach - And 32 teams make the playoffs.   And there are the same 6 teams that have been playing in  the NC over the years.... - No kidding.
I would imagine that even in the good old days of GD when everyone was winning 18 NC's in a row, D1aa was likely a level that never had great participation or coaches staying for more than the 1 season before they hit D1a.

Look...everyone knows this current engine is hardly perfect and all the hand wringing and complaining is bringing the new engine that everyone desires. However...it's rather insulting to bag on anyone who has had any success in this engine. Blaming randomness or lack of coaches, etc. etc., is just a way for a majority of people on here to make excuses for why they can't win in this engine. This engine isn't perfect...far from it. But unpredictable?

I have 26 NC's that say it's pretty predictable...but if I get #27 this afternoon...obv I keep getting lucky!

1/27/2013 1:18 PM
Didn't mean to bag on anyone. Just saying that teams dominating divisions with low participation doesn't prove the point that was made.

Like you said, the engine has some predictability. Which just means that you should dominate the low participating divisions. Those divisions you are more likely to have a true dynasty. I think the original post was stating that the engine isn't random because people are dominating low participating divisions. I disagree.
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