There is a site out there...Sports Sim...not sure if they're still around or not, but played one season of their ****** cbb game, and that's all she wrote. If you think HD sucks, pine the landscape, because it's barren. Shockingly enough, I think I gave them a piece of my mind and spoiled my welcome lol...I think I just talked **** about their game on their boards and lauded how good HD was/is...seemed like such a crapshoot.