THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!!! Topic

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Posted by seamar_116 on 2/19/2013 6:55:00 PM (view original):
Swamp is an atheist too bistiza, which seems to counter your "since bad_luck is an atheist..." line of reasoning. Apparently his thinking is not "because he is an atheist" or it would apply to Swamp as well. People choosing to put up or take down or use language however they want are just part of the religious freedoms and free speech we enjoy. And I know that Swamp agrees with those freedoms as well.

Wishing everyone a "Happy Holidays" is inclusive. Wishing  a "Merry Christmas" is not. If you know you are addressing a Christian then MC is certainly appropriate. But what if you are not? IF you are not Jewish and I wished you a Happy Hannukah" what would you think? And let's be honest, most people wishing a "Merry Christmas" are not doing so out of any religious conviction, but rather a cultural one. And that is why the Xenohobes of the right have a problem with it...a further sign that white man are falling demographically. It has nothing to do with Christmas.

This brings up the issue of how to define Atheists.

There are many radical left wing Atheists. Madalyn Murray Ohair was one of them.

There are also some right wing Atheists.

What there are not is a lot of moderate Atheists. We are usually one or the other. Something to do with the spirit of someone who goes against the main religion of the pack.

2/20/2013 3:15 PM
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Like the crybabies complaining that private companies are choosing to say happy holidays?

Anyone can say whatever they want, and no one should complain about it.

I just think it's stupid how everything has to be "inclusive" and "politically correct" now.  I'm tired of hearing people whine and cry about these things.

Saying "happy holidays" is just those companies trying to cater to everyone because otherwise a few people might whine and cry about it.

Really, all these people who complain should get lives and find better things to do.
2/21/2013 11:00 AM
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I agree. People should practice their religions and holidays in the privacy of their own homes and leave every one else alone. Quit ******** and moaning.
2/21/2013 11:58 AM
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Posted by bad_luck on 2/21/2013 11:58:00 AM (view original):
I agree. People should practice their religions and holidays in the privacy of their own homes and leave every one else alone. Quit ******** and moaning.
Isnt that what they used to say about homosexuals?
2/21/2013 1:49 PM
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What's your point?
2/21/2013 1:55 PM
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People should have the right to share their beliefs in the public square.

If gays can kiss in City Hall why cant Christians pray in city hall?
2/21/2013 1:58 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/21/2013 1:58:00 PM (view original):
People should have the right to share their beliefs in the public square.

If gays can kiss in City Hall why cant Christians pray in city hall?
OK, you can share your beliefs. Just don't get mad when someone else chooses to say happy holidays.
2/21/2013 2:01 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/21/2013 1:58:00 PM (view original):
People should have the right to share their beliefs in the public square.

If gays can kiss in City Hall why cant Christians pray in city hall?
Who's stopping them?
2/21/2013 3:41 PM
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Posted by genghisxcon on 2/21/2013 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/21/2013 1:58:00 PM (view original):
People should have the right to share their beliefs in the public square.

If gays can kiss in City Hall why cant Christians pray in city hall?
Who's stopping them?
ACLU, People for the American way, Atheists and Liberal Democrats.
2/21/2013 4:39 PM
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false, false, false, false


You can pray all you want. You're just not entitled to a government endorsement of your religion.
2/21/2013 4:44 PM
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So if a Christian group wanted to have a public prayer at City Hall there would be no legal issues?

If a Valedictorian wants to give credit to god and call for a moment of prayer in his speech no one would ever try to stop him?

A cross on the freeway on public property wouldnt bother anyone?

TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE
2/21/2013 4:47 PM
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Public property? Keep your crosses on private property.


2/21/2013 4:51 PM
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So Christians cannot pray in public in a nation that is 80% Christian?

And yet people that oppose gay marraige are Homophobes?

How can these 2 things be rationalized?
2/21/2013 6:56 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/21/2013 6:56:00 PM (view original):
So Christians cannot pray in public in a nation that is 80% Christian?

And yet people that oppose gay marraige are Homophobes?

How can these 2 things be rationalized?
You can pray anywhere you want. Literally no one can or will stop you.

2/21/2013 7:17 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 2/21/2013 4:47:00 PM (view original):
So if a Christian group wanted to have a public prayer at City Hall there would be no legal issues?

If a Valedictorian wants to give credit to god and call for a moment of prayer in his speech no one would ever try to stop him?

A cross on the freeway on public property wouldnt bother anyone?

TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE
A "public prayer?"

What is that? You mean a government-endorsed prayer? Yeah, there would be legal issues with that, as well there should be. The government is not in the business of endorsing religions. Funny how the people complaining about "big government" have no problem with it in the most personally intrusive areas, like sexuality and religion.

As for "a cross on the freeway," I have no idea wtf you're talking about. Yeah, it would probably bother people, but so would any object of appreciable size standing in the middle of a G*DD*M M*TH*RF*CK*NG ROADWAY! Do you ever proofread, if not for spelling, at least to see if what you said makes sense?
2/22/2013 1:11 AM
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