Posted by burnsy483 on 11/15/2012 12:56:00 PM (view original):Posted by colonels19 on 11/15/2012 12:13:00 PM (view original):How/why is baserunning looked at separately...it's offense, include it...moreover, it's 2 categories SB and CS...you can say what you want about GIDP, but that's an uncontrollable circumstance. Secondly, when the hell as anyone ever won an MVP in the MLB based on defense? That's what Gold Gloves are for...box 'em up...And offense is what silver sluggers are for. The position you play, and how well you play it, is very important. When Pedroia won was he the best offensive player in the league? He wasn't the best on his own team. Pudge, Tejada, Larkin, etc....there are so many examples.
Posted by colonels19 on 11/15/2012 12:13:00 PM (view original):How/why is baserunning looked at separately...it's offense, include it...moreover, it's 2 categories SB and CS...you can say what you want about GIDP, but that's an uncontrollable circumstance. Secondly, when the hell as anyone ever won an MVP in the MLB based on defense? That's what Gold Gloves are for...box 'em up...
Posted by bad_luck on 11/15/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):Trout was unanimous ROY. He was listed first on all 28 ballots.
Posted by colonels19 on 11/15/2012 4:03:00 PM (view original):Peter Pascarelli: A feat not done in 45 years trumps analytics.
Posted by colonels19 on 11/15/2012 4:38:00 PM (view original):No, like I said, with my BPI number which is a complex, centralized offensive number that includes baserunning (SB-CS), Cabrera wins over Trout, it's unbiased and defense doesn't matter...so based on my numbers Cabrera wins, and I hate the Tigers.
Your dumbassery = confirmed.
Posted by tecwrg on 11/15/2012 7:16:00 PM (view original):Old school mentality still permeates the BBWAA.
Posted by tecwrg on 10/2/2012 4:01:00 PM (view original):It's definitely coming down to an "old school / new school" debate when it comes to evaulating stats and value.
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