Seahawks! SUPER BOWL Champs! Topic

kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
I'll admit that I really didn't see much of him in college, but I do know he was one of the best QB's in the country, if not the best, his Senior year, including being better than Luck.  Probably not better than Griffin.
12/22/2014 9:30 PM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect

I'll inform you.   He was a nobody at NC State.   One of the biggest surprises in college football at WI.   I forget what happened to their starter but he specifically went there because they had everything but a QB.

12/22/2014 9:42 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 9:42:00 PM (view original):

I'll inform you.   He was a nobody at NC State.   One of the biggest surprises in college football at WI.   I forget what happened to their starter but he specifically went there because they had everything but a QB.

Yeah, and he played like a ******* super-star... which is why it's odd to imply that he was just a game manager in college.  Or maybe that wasn't your implication...
12/22/2014 9:48 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
And it isn't like the Wisconsin system generates inflated QB numbers...
12/22/2014 9:49 PM
The Taint
Posts: 12606 (1)
Hall of Famer
997 3
Hall of Famer
15th in NCAA history in TD passes.
12/22/2014 10:04 PM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
Posted by kcden on 12/22/2014 9:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 9:42:00 PM (view original):

I'll inform you.   He was a nobody at NC State.   One of the biggest surprises in college football at WI.   I forget what happened to their starter but he specifically went there because they had everything but a QB.

Yeah, and he played like a ******* super-star... which is why it's odd to imply that he was just a game manager in college.  Or maybe that wasn't your implication...
I'll ask again.   Are you just ignoring his first three college seasons? 
12/22/2014 10:07 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 10:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by kcden on 12/22/2014 9:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 9:42:00 PM (view original):

I'll inform you.   He was a nobody at NC State.   One of the biggest surprises in college football at WI.   I forget what happened to their starter but he specifically went there because they had everything but a QB.

Yeah, and he played like a ******* super-star... which is why it's odd to imply that he was just a game manager in college.  Or maybe that wasn't your implication...
I'll ask again.   Are you just ignoring his first three college seasons? 
I don't understand how those would be terribly important. Pretty sure QB's generally develop over their college careers. And, as I said before, those years, with a mediocre at best team behind him were not exactly bad. They just weren't great.
12/22/2014 10:14 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
Do you think that those seasons say more about what he is today as a professional QB than his senior season does?
12/22/2014 10:15 PM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Meh.  You have his college career to look at also.    He's basically been the same guy his entire trackable career.    I don't think we're looking at an elite passer.   But he's a pretty damn good football player. 
This.
12/22/2014 10:18 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
I guess I'm not understanding your point, there. 
I think you are saying he can't be an elite passer (whatever elite is). His senior season in college would say he absolutely was an elite passer.
His professional career hasn't given the opportunity to see if he can consistently be that because his offense doesn't run that way.
I think he could be, but I don't think the Seahawks would be a better team if he/they tried, as they are currently constructed.
12/22/2014 10:22 PM
MikeT23
Posts: 58012 (0)
Hall of Famer
87 1 47 1 189
Prospect
I love college football.   Watch more of it than pro.   But, due to the nature of the game, you can't always get a feel for a player by looking at his single season stats.    In the pros, they set the schedule and the difference between 1 and 32 isn't that much anyway.   In college, they schedule some of their own games and you can get some dogass mismatches.   I don't know if Wilson put up numbers against Ohio State or Youngstown State. 

Anyway, I'm not the enemy here.  I said pay the man.  I said he's top 1/3 in the NFL.   And I've said he plays exactly how SEA needs him to.   I just don't think he could stand in the pocket and pick teams apart like a Manning/Brady/Brees.    But he doesn't have to. 
12/22/2014 10:37 PM
kcden
Posts: 1635 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 58 368 157
Prospect
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 10:37:00 PM (view original):
I love college football.   Watch more of it than pro.   But, due to the nature of the game, you can't always get a feel for a player by looking at his single season stats.    In the pros, they set the schedule and the difference between 1 and 32 isn't that much anyway.   In college, they schedule some of their own games and you can get some dogass mismatches.   I don't know if Wilson put up numbers against Ohio State or Youngstown State. 

Anyway, I'm not the enemy here.  I said pay the man.  I said he's top 1/3 in the NFL.   And I've said he plays exactly how SEA needs him to.   I just don't think he could stand in the pocket and pick teams apart like a Manning/Brady/Brees.    But he doesn't have to. 
Fair enough.

Looks like he had a bit of a mixture.  Definitely shredded South Dakota.

Rk Date School   Opponent   Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk
1 2011-09-01 Wisconsin   Nevada-Las Vegas W 10 13 76.9 255 2 0 292.5 2 62 31.0 1 0 0   0          
2 2011-09-10 Wisconsin   Oregon State W 17 21 81.0 189 3 0 203.7 4 11 2.8 0 0 0   0          
3 2011-09-17 Wisconsin N Northern Illinois W 23 32 71.9 347 3 1 187.7 5 37 7.4 0 0 0   0          
4 2011-09-24 Wisconsin   South Dakota W 19 25 76.0 345 3 0 231.5 5 -2 -0.4 0 0 0   0          
5 2011-10-01 Wisconsin   Nebraska W 14 20 70.0 255 2 0 210.1 6 32 5.3 1 0 0   0          
6 2011-10-15 Wisconsin   Indiana W 12 17 70.6 166 1 0 172.0 2 42 21.0 0 1 25 25.0 1          
7 2011-10-22 Wisconsin @ Michigan State L 14 21 66.7 223 2 2 168.2 8 30 3.8 1 0 0   0 1 0 1 0.0 0.0
8 2011-10-29 Wisconsin @ Ohio State L 20 32 62.5 253 3 0 159.9 6 -12 -2.0 0 0 0   0          
9 2011-11-05 Wisconsin   Purdue W 15 20 75.0 205 2 0 194.1 10 76 7.6 1 0 0   0          
10 2011-11-12 Wisconsin @ Minnesota W 16 17 94.1 178 4 0 259.7 7 19 2.7 0 0 0   0          
11 2011-11-19 Wisconsin @ Illinois W 10 13 76.9 90 1 0 160.5 4 -6 -1.5 1 0 0   0          
12 2011-11-26 Wisconsin   Penn State W 19 29 65.5 186 2 0 142.2 7 36 5.1 0 0 0   0          
13 2011-12-03 Wisconsin N Michigan State W 17 24 70.8 187 3 0 177.5 7 -5 -0.7 0 2 31 15.5 0          
14 2012-01-02 Wisconsin N Oregon L 19 25 76.0 296 2 1 193.9 6 18 3.0 1 0 0   0      
12/22/2014 10:48 PM
stinenavy
Posts: 4004 (0)
Hall of Famer
4 330 1
All Star
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/22/2014 9:42:00 PM (view original):

I'll inform you.   He was a nobody at NC State.   One of the biggest surprises in college football at WI.   I forget what happened to their starter but he specifically went there because they had everything but a QB.

He was a nobody that led the ACC in passing TDs 3 times. He was nobody that was recruited by not only Wisconsin, but also defending National Champion Auburn.
12/23/2014 12:52 AM
The Taint
Posts: 12606 (1)
Hall of Famer
997 3
Hall of Famer
Senior season, he had the best single season passing efficiency rating since records were kept.
12/23/2014 1:52 AM
bronxcheer
Posts: 17259 (0)
Hall of Famer
298
Hall of Famer
MIKETITTY WILL NEVER ADMIT HE'S WRONG

HE'LL TRY AND OUT LAST YE IN A SLAP FIGHT, THOUGH

THIS
12/23/2014 4:23 AM
◂ Prev 1...43|44|45|46|47...51 Next ▸
Seahawks! SUPER BOWL Champs! Topic
△Top△Bottom

Search Criteria

Terms of Use Customer Support Privacy Statement

© 1999-2024 WhatIfSports.com, Inc. All rights reserved. WhatIfSports is a trademark of WhatIfSports.com, Inc. SimLeague, SimMatchup and iSimNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts, Inc. Used under license. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.